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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


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Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.

Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia(Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

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You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.


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[–] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of them sent me a private message:

your grandfather was a nazi scumfuck that deserves to die

Nice people.

And my grandfather was not German, he lived in an actual communist country and hated it.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

im very sorry to hear that. Can you share that message? Like a screenshot?

[–] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it's fine, it's not my first time on the internet.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

they always forget that the soviet union was perfectly fine with nazi germany until nazi germany didn't share poland

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this is the second time in a month they've done the "you can't fire me I quit" thing

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

and it won't be the last :(

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone that disagrees with them is a Nazi yet they actively deny the ongoing genocide of Uyghers.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone who disagrees with them is a transphobe yet they had several posts agreeing with China's ban on Trans people, sterilization and murder.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah I don't get that? Why are they constantly complaining about transphobia all the time? Yet I never see any.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They're basically using Fox new republican logic of screaming about how everyone who doesn't agree with them is persecuting them and is a bigot about spins wheel of things they like to call people.

[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

It's like labeling CCP critics "racist"

Oh well I guess I'm being racist to myself for criticizing a regime that tried to kill me.

Just tankie logic

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

tbf I do definitely see transphobia pop up around the Fediverse, it's just generally downvoted.

[–] Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank god. I've been annoyed by their toxic nonsense.

This is like when the one insufferable dude at a party leaves on his own, and now the host doesn't have to say something.

[–] formatc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] figjam@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Nah. Just children and shillls

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[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FYI, these super wide screenshots of text make it difficult to read on small/narrow screens (anyone using lemmy on their phone?)

[–] abrasiveteapot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah impossible to read on jerboah - doesn't allow pic zoom (on my phone anyway)

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if there is an option to zoom, it’s difficult because to read the text you have to scroll sideways in small steps for each line

[–] danwardvs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Am I reading this right that Hexbear is defederating with sh.itjust.works?

I’m pleased to hear the good news.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Heh, good riddance. They’re SUPER fucking annoying, and I’ve seen pretty much zero examples of their userbase contributing in a meaningfully positive way to discussions on any instance, including their own.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

All I ever get from their instance are posts about them complaining about other instances complaining about them. Like damn, take a hint you guys.

I have met about 3 normal reasonable people there, everyone else I've seen just barges in to every conversation and says meaningless annoying nonsense.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can we still follow through with defederating them? This is definitely a ploy so they can start back up whenever they want.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The admins don't have plans on defederating.

[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Seems really fishy to me. TheDude defederated from Lemmygrad with zero community input, based on his own personal convictions. Now the admin team agrees to let in a rabid userbase of tankies, imaqtpie calls them a "valuable asset" in response to calls for defederation, and they actively get in the way of our attempts to organize a discussion/vote to defederate. Things feel different and not in a good way.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never had the trash take itself out before. Feels good.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

In Communist China, trash takes out you

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

So calling out tankies for their dictatorship support and defense of genocides made us the Nazis?

Sure, Jan.

[–] MonsieurHedge@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know how someone posts something that aggressively asshole-ish and then doesn't understand why everyone defederates them.

It doesn't kill to be at least slightly polite to people.

[–] ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Lol, I knew they'd run away like the buncha pussies they are. Glad they aren't going to show up en mass anymore and derail threads with their bitching.

[–] Zaroni@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Adios 👋 you will not be missed

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Fucking lmao. Good riddance. This is at least the second time they've bailed before their shitty deeds can get them kicked out.

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[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I only clicked on a few of their posts. One was literally a bunch of people saying Biden is a pussy for not drone striking 80k people at burning man. For people who really eschew civility like that they seem really sensitive in this post.

Delicate internet bullies.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

They lasted only a couple of days. We outlasted them. o7

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Keep fighting that good fight! You'll take down capitalism eventually... sometime... on an internet forum lmao

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://hexbear.net/instances

Looks like they’re still federated with us. Is the instance list automatically updated?

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think they're federated with blahaj.zone and pawb.social but they are still on the list. That said, I'm pretty sure the pawb.social defederation was on our end and not on hexbear's, so that might be why it's still there. I was almost sure hexbear and blahaj.zone both defederated from each other though.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They plan on defederating later

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A side note, but I hate how reactionary is bad. You're supposed to react to new situations and information.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I think the context here is along the lines of Newton's "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Meaning reactionaries are people who oppose new things and want stuff to go back to "the way things were" before that new thing came along. Probably the opposite of what you mean by "reacting to new situations and information."

[–] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reactionary means always being against what your opponents support.

Like conservatives opposing anything liberals support for example. Not because they think the policy is bad per se, but because they believe they must oppose liberals no matter what.

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