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Zynga plans to appeal and confirms no games will be affected.

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[–] UnityDevice@startrek.website 34 points 3 months ago (3 children)

IBM argued that its patent, initially used to launch Prodigy, remains "fundamental to the efficient communication of Internet content." Known as patent '849, that patent introduced "novel methods for presenting applications and advertisements in an interactive service that would take advantage of the computing power of each user’s personal computer (PC) and thereby reduce demand on host servers, such as those used by Prodigy," which made it "more efficient than conventional systems."

According to IBM's complaint, "By harnessing the processing and storage capabilities of the user’s PC, applications could then be composed on the fly from objects stored locally on the PC, reducing reliance on Prodigy’s server and network resources."

The jury found that Zynga infringed that patent, as well as a '719 patent designed to "improve the performance" of Internet apps by "reducing network communication delays." That patent describes technology that improves an app's performance by "reducing the number of required interactions between client and server," IBM's complaint said, and also makes it easier to develop and update apps.

All I can say is yikes.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure the patent made sense at the time, but it seems pretty generic now. Additionally, shouldn't the patent have expired at this point? Why is it still being enforced?

[–] moody@lemmings.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That was my thoughts. Patents normally expire after 20 years, so how is a patent from the 80s still valid after nearly 40?

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] moody@lemmings.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So how is it that a patent from 1989 only expired in 2023?

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago

I not going to pretend I understand patents but it looks like IBM just asked for an extension and got it

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

There is a period between filing a patent and actually receiving it. Maybe you've seen the phrase "patent pending" before. That likely plays a role here, if I read this right

[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Yeah, bullshit patents.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every single phone application does this. The entire Google and Apple app store economy is built on the local host doing something to make it easier on the servers.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

A good chunk of the internet in general as well. I don't see how this is in any way enforcable. So fucking many things do this.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 6 points 3 months ago

Classing dying corporation spends more on their patent lawyers than they do their programmers. The IP lawyer to programmer ratio going positive is the death knell

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 12 points 3 months ago

Fuck Zynga, but "Method for presenting advertising in an interactive service" is clearly an invalid patent even if it was applied 20 years ago

It should be possible to patent only real stuff, not broad concepts that can be applied to everything

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

Patents aid in genocide.

There are hundreds of thousands of industrial processes that we need to change and innovate to combat climate change. Any small innovation will be patented and then potentially exploited to extract the maximum amount of profit. This reduces the pace of innovation generally, and makes greener more energy efficient solutions slower to be adopted.

Similar can be argued about advertising in general of course, they lead to more consumerism and more resource and energy use and why first world has such insane GHG per capita.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

IBM argued that its patent, initially used to launch Prodigy, remains "fundamental to the efficient communication of Internet content." Known as patent '849, that patent introduced "novel methods for presenting applications and advertisements in an interactive service that would take advantage of the computing power of each user’s personal computer (PC) and thereby reduce demand on host servers, such as those used by Prodigy," which made it "more efficient than conventional systems."

I'm torn, I want a better internet but I also want less ads and ad agencies can fuck off and not use my processor and power I paid for to show me ads I don't want in the first place. Pay for your own shit!

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Does anyone know how IBM is allowed to sue for patents from the 80s even as far back as 2014? I thought they should have expired by then?

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I didn't know Zynga was still around

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mobile market.

Think they're up to like Farmville 4 at this point.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I didn't realize there was a Farmville 2 lol

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

They update the graphics, make the monetization more aggressive, and I think crypto got involved at some point, but the gameplay stays the exact same.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Flaming shit never dies