this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2023
865 points (97.5% liked)

Technology

60131 readers
3045 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

"Lawsuit says network discloses user data at request of Saudi authorities at much higher rate than for US, UK and Canada"

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 98 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not surprising to anyone who remembers that the saudis gave Elon the money needed to buy Twitter. Naturally they have an anti democratic interest in it

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The article isn't about Musk

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.one 41 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Correct. This is largely for a time pre Musk.

[–] KIM_JONG@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Back in those innocent times when they were just murdering journalists and cremating them in barrels.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Would you all read the fucking article? Yes, Elon sucks and is tanking Twitter, but all this is from stuff that happened in 2015, long before he bought Twitter.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Wookie@artemis.camp 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe that’s why the title says Twitter and not Elon…

[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet all of the comments at the time I made my OP were going on about Elon like he did this.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this should stop us from talking about this?

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No. Look at all the comments though. Everyone is blaming Musk for it when the lawsuit is actually about the company before he bought it.

load more comments (2 replies)

Don't make us read!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EM used Saudi money to buy the shithole and you think they won't want something in return?

They certainly don't expect to be paid in profits...

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The lawsuit is against Jack Dorsey.

[–] sab@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're ruining the circlejerk >:(

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Fuck Twitter for doing that, but how about we also keep Saudis responsible for the crimes they're committing? just saying

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] woshang@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just for you guys to know, a Saudi teacher got death sentence over tweets, reported form last week.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 14 points 1 year ago

And Kashoggi got baited and chopped to bits by the Saudis over financing opposing voices on Twitter.

It looks like he posted under his own name and was arrested last year. Guess they are getting nervous about their rule there.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/31/middleeast/saudi-arabia-retired-teacher-death-sentence-intl/index.html

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Elon buying Twitter in the first place (with plans to openly destroy it) was helping them commit rights abuses in the first place - Twitter was a critical communications/organization tool during the Arab Spring, musk's job was in part to make sure that it wasn't sustainable for that purpose in the future, and it now isn't.

This has been the main thing all along.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Palerider@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

So, would that be pronounced "Shitter"?

Seems apt.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

At this point, it wouldn't be anywhere near surprising if any of the major social media giants from any country were aiding human rights abuses in any country.

[–] dilan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

X plans to collect biometric information, job, education history for safety, security, and identification purposes.

Elon did not get any lesson from the Saudi man's death at all. Its so important for people to remain anonymous in the digital world.

Try this: http://wiremin.org/

[–] pureness@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I've been using Mastodon for over a year with no trouble and digging it. The best part is no ads or algorithm bs

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess their investment in Elon paid off.

[–] sab@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

It centers on the events surrounding the infiltration of the California company by three Saudi agents, two of whom were posing as Twitter employees in 2014 and 2015, which ultimately led to the arrest of al-Sadhan’s brother, Abdulrahman, and the exposure of the identity of thousands of anonymous Twitter users, some of whom were later reportedly detained and tortured as part of the government’s crackdown on dissent.

The cost of non-private social media

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Muskrat has to pay back them loans somehow.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The new legal filing comes days after Human Rights Watch condemned a Saudi court for sentencing a man to death based solely on his Twitter and YouTube activity, which it called an “escalation” of the government’s crackdown on freedom of expression.

After Abouammo resigned in May 2015, he continued to contact Twitter to field requests he was receiving from Bader al-Asaker, a senior aide of Mohammed bin Salman, for the identity of confidential users.

The lawsuit also alleges that Twitter had “ample notice” of security risks to internal personal data, and that there was a threat of insiders illegally accessing it, based on public reporting at the time.

Between July and December 2015, Twitter granted the kingdom information requests “significantly more often” than most other countries at that time, including Canada, the UK, Australia, and Spain, the lawsuit alleges.

Twitter would later notify users who had been exposed, telling them their data “may” have been targeted, but did not provide more specific information about the scale or certainty that the breach had, in fact, occurred.

Dorsey met with bin Salman about six months after the company was made aware of the issue by the FBI, and the two discussed how to “train and qualify Saudi cadres”.


The original article contains 1,153 words, the summary contains 206 words. Saved 82%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] dilan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is why personal privacy & nyms are important. We need to leave those platforms that collect our identity info, there is no privacy at all!

Twitter is not the right place for free speech, It's so hilarious that Elon says, 'Twitter is for free speech!

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Very disgusting of the website.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember during the Arab Spring when everyone was saying how great twitter was and how it was fueling the revolts

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ameliawilliams@leminal.space 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I stopped using Twitter when Musk took over. I kept my account for a while but recently I logged in, saw a bunch of alt-right transphobia and racism, and then deleted my account.

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I deleted mine the day he took over.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That took much less time than I expected.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, only 9 years to get caught and brought public.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] avater@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

twitter is still a platform for cunts. End of story.

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why am I not suprised

FUCK MUSK AND FUCK SPEZ

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is about Twitter during 2014 and 2015, long before Elon

[–] dilan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[–] regalia@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free speech absolutist, but only when it's straight up harmful.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

One more point to the fediverse.

load more comments
view more: next ›