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    [–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 112 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Ads?! in Ubuntu? Never! They were simply "integrating online scope results into the home lens of the dash" 🀑

    (that is an actual quote from the sentence immediately following "We’re not putting ads in Ubuntu" in Mark Shuttleworth's blog post responding to the entirely predictable backlash after they did this, twelve years ago...)

    [–] november@lemmy.vg 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Mark Richard Shuttleworth (born 18 September 1973) is a South African and British entrepreneur who is the founder and CEO of Canonical, the company behind the development of the Linux-based Ubuntu operating system.[1] In 2002, Shuttleworth became the first South African to travel to space, doing so as a space tourist.[2][3][4] He lives on the Isle of Man and holds dual citizenship from South Africa and the United Kingdom.[5][6] According to the Sunday Times Rich List in 2020, Shuttleworth is worth an estimated Β£500 million. --Wikipedia

    This explains so much.

    [–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

    He the Linux world's mini elon musk

    [–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I remember. And how much shit the community flung towards them. And their rep is still stained with it, as it should be.

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

    The ads and the Amazon thing will follow Canonical forever

    [–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Oh wait, they removed that? I had no idea because I stopped using Ubuntu when they put ads in the dash.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    Doesn't mean they stopped pushing their own shit in places that they have no business touching. I mean:

    > apt install firefox
    > look inside
    > snap

    And then there's Ubuntu Pro. https://feddit.org/comment/2001630

    (edit) I just realized that I could've expressed the first point using proper English, but my idiot brain immediately chose memes. I think I'm beyond help.

    [–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

    I haven't used Ubuntu in ages but holy shit that's awful...

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    [–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 53 points 1 month ago

    That was the first time I tried Linux with the free and open thing. I didn't know much back then and when I saw the ads, I was like... Ooohhh this is ad supported crap. Nope... Not at all

    Fucking distro kept me away from my spirit penguin for 2 years before I realized it was ubuntu's fault.

    [–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    They were heavily panned for that back then. My image of Ubuntu of that time is heavily associated with their Unity desktop which they latter dropped(only for it to spring up again).

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I still think they should never be able to escape the controversy. It was 10 years ago but the possibly that it could be reintroduced still exists.

    [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    They've never given me the vibe that that reversal of course was permanent, or that other things they do aren't similarly anti-user

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    In many respects, I think the scare manipulation they're pulling when someone updates their system up try to get them to buy their subscription service is worse, implying that they won't be getting all of the security patches they need otherwise

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    [–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 33 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    This is precisely why I dislike and don't recommend Ubuntu, to this day.

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    They lost so much trust when they did that, truly an insane, shortsighted decision.

    [–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Not just Ubuntu, but Canonical as well.

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    [–] regnare@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Same, I just use standard Debian now, works great for me.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    I was using Debian on desktop for a while. I've been using Debian on servers for over 20 years so I figured it's a good choice. I liked it, but ended up switching to Fedora. The only Linux distro I can use at work is Fedora (we use a modified version of Fedora) and I liked it enough to start using it at home too.

    I appreciate the newer packages, especially for things like KDE Plasma and the Nvidia drivers. For example, Fedora had KDE Plasma 6.1 before Debian had even started packaging 6.0 for experimental.

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    [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    That's also the stop I disembarked that train for desktops. I don't know why I continued using them for some servers but their behavior with Snaps has me leaving for good.

    [–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah Canonical is the Google of GNU/Linux

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    [–] Naich@lemmings.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    At least they learned and stopped doing it.

    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The ads are inside the terminal now

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    [–] corvett@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 month ago

    I don't. I migrated to Arch in 2011 or 2012 btw. Fuck I feel old.

    [–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

    Pepperidge Farm remembers

    [–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Huh, I was using Ubuntu as my daily driver circa 2014 and I don't remember this at all... maybe I stopped just prior to them implementing it... or maybe it just didn't make enough of an impression for me to notice.

    [–] Glitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It was also fairly easy to disable

    [–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Ehh... not at first. That was a later release.

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    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

    It could have been earlier? i tried Ubuntu around 2012. I didn't know how to get rid of the Amazon stuff, and it turned me off Linux...thinking why use this OS that is ad based....wasn't till 2017 when W10 made our computers slow that I tried linux again.

    [–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This may be kind of a dumb question, but would it affect Mint in any way if Canonical were to reintroduce ads? I know Mint's a fork but I'm not sure how integrated that part of the OS is.

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    It wouldn't be worse than snap integration which Mint already doesn't use. Also Mint have a backup plan called LMDE if things go sour.

    [–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

    I always got this feeling that LMDE will eventually become Mint's main distro, with the Ubuntu-based version slowly fading away.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

    Probably not as the Mint Team would either not be affected or they would have a cow.

    When snap came out the Mint team got pissed and started maintaining the packages removed from Ubuntu

    [–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I missed all the fun because there was no ads in my country, and the Amazon app was just a weird western thing removed right away. Unity was pretty good though.

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    [–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

    Yup, that was when I switched off ubuntu to debian

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This shit probably put me off trying out Linux for years.

    [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Hopefully you've tried another distro by now, and also know to avoid big corporate distros best you can

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Been using Mint for a few years now.

    [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I was digging LMDE until my 8GB of ram simply couldn't handle the load and I'm in AntiX now. Honestly, I've watched Mint go from being immature and insecure to security leaders without losing their accessibility. Solid and incredibly important distro if you ask me

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Yeah, me too. I quit X the moment Musk took over.

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    [–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    didn't they also put ads for ubuntu pro in your .bashrc?

    [–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

    That's still there but it appears when you use apt, it's not in .bashrc.

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

    Not ads, actual Amazon search results. The good old times when Big Tech wasn't so radicalizingly big.

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