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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Programming Javascript is roughly the equivalent of hitting your head with a hammer or trying to uninstall McAfee.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As if Javascript wasn’t complex enough, let’s introduce TypeScript and Coffescript and then write transpilers so we can convert said languages back into Javascript, which we could have done in the first place.

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nobody uses coffeescript anymore, and typescript is there to make things easier not harder.

[–] excel@lemmy.megumin.org 1 points 2 years ago

These languages only exist because JS is so dumb in the first place

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And all the new versions of all the above constantly being released. I'm so glad I don't use those languages anymore.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Use stringly-typed everything, and always padStart your numbers.
Saves running into issues with numbers outside the 52-bit integer range.
And padding start means you don't have to worry about pesky sort functions.

Just don't do maths. Simple.

Maybe you could do a manual sort.
Provide a "captcha" prompt, and ask which comes first in the list... You know, to make sure the user is a human! And you get free sorting.

[–] dave@feddit.uk 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Use stringly-typed everything

Instructions unclear. Now 1+2=12.

[–] LordTrychon@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago

I got 000001000002.

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Provide a "captcha" prompt, and ask which comes first in the list... You know, to make sure the user is a human! And you get free sorting.

I mean, this strangely is a compelling idea...

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I always try to prove myself human with wrong answers. Typically the first screen is an AI training screen, then the next screen is one the computer knows but wants to see if you know. By answering the first one wrong and the second correct, I'm hoping to poison the data.

[–] coloredgrayscale@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iirc they require 5 votes with the same response. Your effort won't do anything, other than flag you as unreliable.

Afaik 4chan (of course) did that poisoning correctly, "classifying" the unknown words as "penis" (of course).

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm happy enough being classed as unreliable, either way they don't get good training data.

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 7 points 2 years ago

Just don’t do maths. Simple.

That's a good rule for life in general, really.

[–] oessessnex@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Turn JavaScript into Bash with these easy steps...

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Note if you put the image link in the url bar of the post rather than the body it lets people see it while scrolling (url + title can be edited so you can edit it to do that still if you want)

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

thanks!

using 3rd party client (and first "image post" I've made on this platform) and wasn't sure how image post should be made.

[–] Grass@geddit.social 7 points 2 years ago

Is there even any case where you would want this?

[–] fuck_u_spez@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I couldn't believe it, tried it out, what the actual heck? I mean I get all these weird string vs number comparison but sorting actual numbers and this comes out? What kind of drugs were the designers of javascript (or at least this function) on... Who thought it was a good idea to sort numbers lexicographically??

[–] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably meth or cocaine, considering js was written by a single person in 10 days

[–] valourvalkyria@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Iirc Array.sort requires you to pass a function in, or it casts into strings and sort them.

That way they get to reuse the code for sorting strings!

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 5 points 2 years ago

Well, 3 out of 5 correct ain't bad. With some more trial runs we might get this thing nailed!

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

So, I think just yesterday or the day before someone on here was saying we shouldn't make fun of JavaScript anymore.

[–] solarzones@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

JavaScript knows my truest fears too LOL

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

JavaScript: You chose this path, now I have a surprise for you

[–] roboter5123@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Deploying surprise in 3, 2... Hold up for a seco d that wasn suppossed to happen.

[–] Freethewhat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ugh, I just ran into this in Terraform. Why is this a thing?

[–] Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's just sorted alphabetically (technically it is the UTF16 code order). To be fair it's a sane default for most use cases. In JS case you can define a very simple callback to change the behavior to numeric sorting (a,b => a<b). Many other sorters provide a flag instead, but numeric sorting is seldom the default as it is not as useful most of the time in weakly typed languages.

[–] excel@lemmy.megumin.org 2 points 2 years ago

weakly typed languages

Well, looks like we found the problem right there

[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't think JS works that way

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 32 points 2 years ago
[–] Quasari@programming.dev 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Array.prototype.sort if no callback is passed to it will coerce non-undefined elements to strings when sorting. It does do that.

To sort numbers passing a function like (a, b) => a - b is good enough.

[–] stratoscaster@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 years ago

Fuck JS is stupid.

Source: use JS regularly