does this not breakout the individual being "attacked" having a gun or is that literally just not a real data point?
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Given the type of data they are talking about, there is no such thing as a "bystander". Anyone close enough to stop the shooter is a victim of at least "assault with a deadly weapon", if not a victim of "attempted murder" or a victim of "murder".
For accuracy, the legend on this chart should have the word "bystander" replaced with the word "victim" in all instances.
yeah idk, to me bystander is like that one guy in that one mall in indiana who managed to shoot an active shooter. You mean to tell me these people aren't real and don't exist? I'm not surprised.
Or just like, some dude walking by a crime actively happening. To me the individual being criminalized on, the victim, if they were to own a gun, i would think this stat would be a lot more likely.
This also ignores the actual point of things like conceal carry, if you open carry someone probably won't try to rob you or mug you at all, which is going to be a statistical anomaly, you aren't supposed to use your gun unless you absolutely need to, if that means handing over your wallet and cancelling your cards, so be it, at least you didn't kill someone.
It's really only meant to be for the 0.1% of cases where it might actually be required.
And there is going to be many who will say the answer to that is a "Good Cop With a Gun".
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But if we all had guns then a lot more would end in shot by citizen.
I'm guessing the number of incidents would climb higher too, though.
So none of the attackers managed to leave the scene after the police arrived?
Now show the states where this happened, and compare gun laws. Normalize for population. I'm genuinely curious if states with tighter gun control have more shootings and no chance for a good guy with a gun to stop them because they themselves can't get guns. To expand, look where good guy with gun did stop it and what state it was in.