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Bernie Sanders predicts 'rough' campaign ahead but thinks Harris has 'very good chance to win' (abcnews.go.com)

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[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Regardless of her touted chances of winning, let's not repeat 2016.

Get out and fucking vote like your life, and the lives of everyone you care about, and probably the next 10-20 year stability of geopolitics, depends on you turning out to vote.

I wish I was exaggerating.

[+] K1nsey6@lemmy.ml -47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I will vote like I did in 2016, for a 3rd party.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Unhelpful person pledges further apathy. Got it.

Voting for brain worm 2024?

[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He's on a .ml instance

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's amazing how quick the "I just want someone other than Biden" crowd turned to "I'm voting 3rd party" the second Biden was no longer the candidate. Almost like they just want the Democrats to lose...

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't mistake it for apathy. I didn't vote for either major party candidate in either of the last 2 presidential elections because I didn't like either of the options. I'm not going to be schoolmarmed by anybody on Lemmy for doing so, especially since many of the people participating in US politics discussions on Lemmy seem to be Canadians or Europeans who, just like Russian trolls, cannot vote in US elections.

If you want viable third party options leading towards reform, you have to act accordingly. In '92 Ross Perot won 20% of the popular vote despite only re-entering the race in October. In June of that year he was polling as the leader in the 3-way race, before questions about whether he would qualify for all states ballots. He could have won that election.

Since then, the two mega parties have done all they can to ensure no viable 3rd option ever emerges again. This year we were given a matchup of historically unpopular R, nominated pretty much by default through a party controlled process of primaries that couldn't be meaningfully influenced by primary voters...and on the D side we were given a historically unpopular D for whom the party scuttled all potential primary challengers, then at the last second they replaced him via their national process, subverting the entire point of having primaries, with a candidate who won zero votes in that initial process or the previous election cycles primary process.

That said, since as an individual I have no meaningful way of influencing or reforming either major party, and both continue to force candidates upon us I don't like, I will be voting for whoever I want. It is not even remotely similar to "apathy". Thanks.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago

I don't see how you tossing your vote away to a third party that will definitely lose, in any way creates a future with more than two major parties. It simply will never work. Your efforts would be better spent trying to reform either existing party from within. Maybe you're not apathetic but you are delusional.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

All Harris has to do to win, is lean into who she IS, and at every oppertunity post evidence that trump is wrong about who he says she is.

Add a big helping of policy talk, a dash of memeing, celebrity endorsements, and boom, she's in.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

That and not have the electoral voters fuck her

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com -5 points 2 months ago

Her campaign doesn't even think this is true. They are essentially running a "basement" campaign. Zero events off prompter, speaking through surrogates, and trying to ride any potential DNC bump all the way through the election (or at least until early voting is underway in many states).

Harris is deeply off-putting to listen to when she speaks extemporaneously on virtually any issue. Therefore her campaign is banking on more or less hiding her, "freezing" the poll numbers approximately where they are now and avoiding big risks.

Literally the only inflection point that can change the race any further is the debate (or debates) if that happens.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

i think any campaign within spitting range of trump is going to be a rough campaign. it's inevitable.

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago

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