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Legislation that Gov. JB Pritzker signed into law this month bans physical punishment in private schools while reiterating a prohibition on the practice in public schools implemented 30 years ago.

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20240822113447/https://apnews.com/article/schools-corporal-punishment-paddling-discipline-54591cd8826079a2a6c22e083612abd9

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[–] roy_mustang76@lemmy.dbzer0.com 164 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Fucking hell, how is this still legal in 45 other states???

We have a long way to go

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right? I’m often shocked by what is still legal, like the number of states that allow an adult to marry a child.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's frustrating how long it takes the legal system to catch up. I experienced corporal punishment in public school. It's a barbaric and weird practice.

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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 19 points 2 months ago (8 children)

TIL.. what the fuck. This shit has been illegal Canada wide for generations now, I honestly thought this article was from the past..

Wait...is the modern day US from the past? Was there some sort of time loop?

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[–] Kyrrrr@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 2 months ago

Gotta make sure the kids stay in line so you can get them to work. Don't forget how many child labor laws have been loosened or removed by conservative states

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 17 points 2 months ago

I was unaware it was still legal until this.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I’m not a violent person. I’ve never been in a fight, let alone in jail for assault. If some school official did that shit to my daughter, it would be my first time for both.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Like everything else in this country.

The Cruelty is the Point

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 113 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What's wrong with physical punishment? My dad hit me and I turned out fine after just a decade of therapy.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Careful now, I got in trouble yesterday for not putting a /s on my sarcasm.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The

after just a decade of therapy.

does wonders.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Being sarcastic about damn near everything works for me.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 84 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The data available shows hitting kids does absolutely nothing to increase desired behaviors and in many cases is linked to increase in unwanted behaviors.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 33 points 2 months ago

What do you mean hitting children teaches them that hitting is acceptable?

Next they will tell us that beating our wives for dinner being late is unacceptable!

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Yeah I can 100% confirm this. My parents beat me when I was a kid.

I've learned to lie better. It's not something I'm proud of.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Also explains a lot about American culture being what it is.

We all learned to convincingly lie our way out of “the wooden spoon”

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In schools? How is this even still an open question? I thought the debate had at least moved on to whether parents should be allowed to hurt their children, even in the US.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was banned in public schools 30 years ago, this extends the ban to private schools

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Not in every state.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 37 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Wait, it was allowed up until now?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Laws for physically harming children are super messed up. Children are legally nearly a slave class in this country. Their parents can 100% hit them ("within reason") and it's not child abuse. If a child retaliates at all, the child can actually have charges pressed against them by the parent.

I have heard numerous numerous stories of this exact situation: parent starts beating kid to discipline. it gets out of hand/kid won't tolerate any more, so they call 911. Police show up, tell kid not only are they not arresting parent, but it is parent's right to hit kid and discipline as they see fit (within the law). But if parent wants they can see about charges to kid if kid hit them or destroyed property.

This is also very similar as to what happens when women call for domestic violence - the police threaten to arrest the victim. Really really often. It's almost like police are domestic abusers themselves.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

There's still a handful of red states with it on the books as well. Yes, it's everyone you think it is.

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[–] emerald@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The thumbnail made me think this was about hitting children with busses, glad to see that's already illegal

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

hitting children with busses, glad to see that's already illegal

...for now.

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[–] blazera@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Heres my argument against hitting kids. Mississippi loves it, cant get enough of it. Every ailment of society is caused by kids not getting hit enough, and they wear their past of childhood violence as their biggest badge of honor. Hitting kids is how you get Mississippians.

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[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 months ago

This is overreacting. I was beat as a child and I only need minimal therapy now.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Good job. Keep making conservatives actively confront their weird, inhumane, hateful bullshit on its face.

The gop is the party of hungry, beaten kids, sitting in understaffed schools, without schoolbooks, and distracted by construction noise from the publicly funded ten commandments statue going up near the school entrance between the active shooter drills. They sit there, nodding off and tired from working a double at the Tyson chichen slaughterhouse the night before.

And never forget, matt gaetz is sitting in the parking lot waiting to offer your kids a ride after school...

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was threatened with spanking once in the 9th grade.

I told the principal that it would take more than him to do it. He called my dad. Dad laughed in his face and told him to try me on. Then hung up.

I ended up with a week of ISS.

INB4: I know this sounds like a greentext. I've been telling this story for 20 fkin years.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ahhh ISS. The truest of punishments. We had to help the janitors as part of ISS. Good luck catching up on missed schoolwork at home despite being in school all day, all while watching your friends have fun while you empty the next trash can.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (7 children)

We had "optional" corporal punishment.

You could choose swats with a paddle, or writing sentences over and over.

Most people took swats, but I just picked sentences and never did them. They'd double the amount a couple times and eventually stop asking for them.

But absolutely zero boys gave a shit about taking swats, it was no deterrent what so ever. Even knowing that there was an easy way out of the alternative, they'd just take swats and immediately forget it happened.

If anything it made behavior worse, because they could do whatever and then have a few seconds of discomfort later if and only if they were caught doing the bad thing.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

But absolutely zero boys gave a shit about taking swats

Great time to remind everyone that the adult men who administer corporal punishment in schools do in fact take great pleasure in spanking teenage girls, and that girls opt-out of it more than boys because they know it will border on sexual assault.

Girls have a higher pain tolerance than boys. They just know the horrific implications of being alone in a room with an older man who has authority and permission to use violence.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, I think girls didn't even have the option.

I dont know if the girls gym teacher just wouldn't do it, or if none of them picked it, but none of them got swats.

But almost every gym class there was a line of boys waiting.

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Showing a picture of buses made me think they meant hitting them with vehicles lmao

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Here's a crazy idea. Every time you wanna spank a kid, don't. Spank that kid's parents instead.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

It's CHILD ABUSE!

To not allow TEACHERS to SPANK KIDS! I'm a Republican trying to Protect The Children!

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)
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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

But but but . . . hitting solves problems!

Just ask the guy who invented it . . . Hitler.

(I'll show myself out)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So we're getting a throwback to 1973 news articles... Wait there were still places outside of backwards ass Pender County, NC that did this shit?

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

When is someone going to spank me for once?

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[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I went to a small rural school for a year when I was in elementary. The music teacher head paddle he'd use when it was your birthday. Wanna know the really fucked up part about it all? His paddle has holes drilled into it.

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