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I don’t think China is straight up doing death camps. They have put them in "re-education centers" and there has been a significant drop in Uyghur birth rates.
The fact that Islamic countries haven’t spoken out could well be that they are also known for religious persecution. Turkey spoke out against China's treatment of Muslims in 2009 and got hit for it. To this day, China reminds them not to mention it. There’s a lot of money moving there plus the belts and roads initiative.
It’s not clear cut. We can’t definitively say that they aren’t abusing human rights. So, maybe we don’t make claims we can’t prove either?
Edit: I forgot to say it works both ways. If they’re making a claim, it should be on them to provide evidence too. So, ask for that.
Edit #2: or take advice from here and use straw man arguments, whataboutisms, and generally attack anyone that doesn’t 100% line up with your opinion.
I see a couple comments you posted before (since removed) excusing the American government for overlooking the Palestinian genocide.
So it's interesting that genocide becomes an important issue for you when it can be used as a cudgel against China.
And fuck off with your whiny edits about how you're just a lil guy getting dogpiled. If you want to have a good faith disagreement about China or whatever that's more than allowed here, providing you make a real attempt. Which you did not.
Sorry you stumbled onto one square milimetre of internet that doesn't follow imperial narratives.You wanna feel validated in your anti China sentiment? Go read or watch any major media outlets, speak with any politician, or talk to 90 percent of random people where you live. They will all share in those opinions.
That’s bullshit. What’s been happening in Palestine is atrocious and America's long-standing policy towards funding it is inexcusable.
The only thing remotely near "excusing" is my staunch belief that letting Trump be the next president bc of the current admin's stance is not helpful or even counterproductive. Especially given the GOP's regressive stance toward gays, trans, education, etc.
So what you're saying is that we should support the bankrollers of an ongoing genocide? idk, calling that "not excusing" seems like semantics to me
So are you going to vote Democrat or PSL
Trump would do genocide ×2
there has been a significant drop in Uyghur birth rates.
-The Uyghur people, along with ~50 other officially recognized minority groups, were exempt from the one child policy. When the one child policy was ended a few years ago and was replaced with a more general three child policy, these minority groups were no longer exempted.
-There is a direct correlation between rising living standards and declining birth rates, and China is a relatively rapidly developing country, obviously including the Xinjiang region were most of the Uyghurs live.
IMO these two points go a pretty long way in explaining the drop in Uyghur birth rates.
dont bother with any of that. instead, tell them the genocide is real and really, really bad, and that they should read a FULL paper by adrian zenz. then you get a low chance that they do that. and if that happens... uh how to put it nicely... there must be serious brain damage involved if they continue believing in it.