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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 153 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't threaten me with a good time

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I know, right?!

Unfortunately, Trump is lying as usual:

Harris, who has had shifting stances on health care in the past, confirmed in late July through her campaign that she no longer supports a single-payer health care system.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This was one of my big complaints with Biden and now Harris. I'll still vote for them, but I have to stay at a shitty job that I fucking hate so that I can afford my mental health subscription.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sooooo.......universal health care?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nope, she's back on the ACA train 😮‍💨

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

The ACA was intend to support single player health care.

She's taking the Obama position which, it's the politically savvy one, if they can get all the measures of the ACA through.

The ACA is what Canada did before transitioning to single payer. That had anyways been the goal of the ACA.

The issue is a lot of Americans are resistant to single payer. They think having only 1 choice is like communism or something.

Which is why the ACA had always been the first step. Obama had said as much, publicly.

[–] aniki@lemmings.world 8 points 2 months ago

Neolibs gonna neo shine.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

It's telling that there's a chance for big healthcare to come over to her side. It's the worst kind of good news, since they need to die, and must be aware that any kind of functioning democracy will eventually kill their business model.

But apparently their other current option doesn't stay bought...?

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 131 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wish Democrats were as cool as Republicans make them out to be.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Be the radical leftist they're afraid you are

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Absolutely!

[–] hannesh93@feddit.org 118 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perfect example of how the conservative goal is not to "make things better for most people" but to "make things worse for specific groups"

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago

Yup! Wilhoit's Law is alive and well in the fascist Republican party!

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 84 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“You’re all going to be thrown into a communist system … You’re going to be thrown into a system where everybody gets health care.”

I thought that it wasn't possible to be that stupid and that you just took his words out of context, but.... once again he proved me that he could sound more stupid every time he opens his mouth

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

words out of context

lol when your "context" is "the only truth that exists is whatever i just sharted out of my mouth," then does anyone else's perception of context even matter?

someone tried to argue that everyone was taking the "you won't have to vote anymore" statement a couple weeks ago out of context. then some GOP muppet tried to say he was joking. after years of GOP bleating about "i love trump because he speaks his mind!"

for someone who speaks his mind and tells it like it is, trump sure does need a lot of ~~explanation~~ olympics-tier mental acrobatics to get to what he really meant when he said ___________ (literally anything)

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[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 73 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So all former presidents are now campaigning for Harris?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Looks like it 😄

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

U guys are about to become a 1st world country I'm so proud.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sadly no. She's dropped her support for Medicare for all. We'll be closer than likely ever before, and we might get an option to buy in to Medicare or Medicaid, our two government run systems. If we ever got enough in Congress and Senate to push Medicare for all through, I'm pretty sure she'd sign it, and I don't think she's fight against it, but her focus is on Obamacare, because she's now so tied to the Obama admin through Biden.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 21 points 2 months ago

Her campaign has said she would not push for single payer as President, but it's important to remember that those kinds of promises can be broken just as easily as the usual campaign promises to do things which never materialize.

If she gets into office, progressive pressure needs to ramp up and stay up; the real goal should be the 2026 midterms.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If only that were true.

In the US, people like to assert that we have "access" to health care, but that access is subject to a significant paywall, and therefore doesn't exist if you can't afford to be price-gouged.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Even with insurance I had to fork over ,$2k for an MRI. I have no idea what I'm gonna do if I actually need surgery

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I'm a Candian here so take my advice for what is worth. Vote Democrat as cross the board.

I have cancer. Hodgkins Lymphoma. A felt a lump in my neck on Friday. Called the doctors office on Monday and saw the doctor on Wednesday. In the next two months I had an ultrasound that was, "worrying" followed up by a chest x-ray and full body CT. That necessitated a biopsy which resulted in the positive diagnosis of Hodgkins. That triggered a PET scan, respiratory study, and echocardiogram. I saw my oncologist a week after the PET scan and started chemo two days later. I just had my second infusion this morning and I'm feeling a bit beaten up. They gave me Ondensetron for the night after chemo and Olanzapine for nausea as needed. All I pay for is parking at the hospital and I can claim that on my taxes.

Universal healthcare is really, really hard to implement. That's why only 22 of the 23 most developed countries in the world have it.

The US health care system is a grotesque lie.

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[–] The_v@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Take a really close look at your insurance policy.

They fuck you over at the beginning with deductible. Then the out-of-pocket maximums come into play. The maximium you can be responsible for is $9,450. More than enough to bankrupt most people. My plan is at $4k per person through my wife's union job.

Depending on what state you live in you can apply for income based bill reduction as well. These are common in blue states. In red states, consider dying.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry you (and all of us) are stuck with this system.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Kamala won't give us healthcare.

However, back in 2016, Trump promised to give us universal healthcare "the governments gonna pay for it!" when he did that interview with O'Donnel? I think

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[–] monkeyman69@lemmynsfw.com 29 points 2 months ago (7 children)

"very popular private health insurance"

I'm not an American, but I suspect this is a lie..

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

Health insurance literally profits from not helping people as much as possible. I have no idea how anyone can think this is good, unless they profit from it too

[–] echo@lemmings.world 14 points 2 months ago

I have excellent private health insurance and I absolutely hate those fuckers... it's only 'popular' in the sense that I'm not dead because I have it.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He didn't say who it was popular with.

Healthcare executives? It's really popular.

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[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Popular doesn't mean cool, it means it's commonplace. A popular option for insurance is privatized/subsidized insurance from your employer. Not because it's cool, but because it's the most viable option. Very popular. My employment-based insurance cost 60% less than Marketplace insurance.

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[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Insurance is great. FOR PROFIT insurance is a scourge and should be killed without mercy.

[–] whatevs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I feel like it's thanksgiving and everyone wants the crazy uncle to stop making speeches and just eat his ham and Mac n cheese

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maaaaan, whys it always gotta be a drunk uncle? Or a crazy uncle??? I'm an uncle, and the only speeches I give on thanksgiving are how the 1993 Super Mario Movie is BETTER than the recent animated one.

And I'm right!

Also Charles Martinet was and always has been a TERRIBLE voice for mario. He went from a gruff itailian brooklyn plumber to an accient so over the top, mario is the only one to ever use it.

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

He's threatening us with a good time

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Healthcare for everyone? I don't want that! I want everyone to pay for their own healthcare for the rest of their life! Even after i died, i want everyone to know i pay for my own healthcare for a while! Ten years, at least!

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 6 points 2 months ago

Did not expect a SNK reference in the wild on Lemmy.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

He makes a great case for voting for Kamala.

I'm one of those people that only has healthcare because of the healthcare program. I have an insufferable time dealing with disability and the state. The quality of care is still absolute trash in reality, but such is a world where real science is completely undermined by capitalism commercialism nonsense. What is not known, and what is not treatable falls into a massive blind spot in the present scheme. Three sigma and cherry picking are not science; five sigma and double blind studies, without fitting findings to results are the realm of all real science.

Ultimately, ethical healthcare means the end of the era of this pseudoscientific nonsense industry of our present barbarism. Privateer pirate criminals hate that kind of progress in society. Ethics really chop their balls off.

[–] myusernameis@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Healthcare would be great, but at this point I'd still settle for taco trucks on every corner...

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Best we can do is one half price taco for every ten major medical procedures you can't afford.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 months ago

…that’s still a lot of tacos.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Don't threaten me with a good time!

[–] saltinecrackers@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

The horrors!

[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Neoliberal swine abound…we ain’t getting healthcare.

A vote for Bart is a vote for Anarchy!

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Is he playing for his side?

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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