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And where are you from? And how old? Not "do you" but just if you know how.

I'm in the US, mid 30s and can (and do) drive a manual transmission.

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[–] DarkwinDuck@feddit.de 108 points 1 year ago (8 children)

In Germany nearly everyone can drive manual. Used to be that if you didn't learn how to drive manual in driving school, you weren't allowed to drive manual with your license.

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

AFAIK that is still the case, no?

[–] kernelle@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can vouch for Belgium, where this is still the case. I have yet to meet someone who can only drive automatic (except for people with disabilities ofcourse)

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[–] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Prettty sure that's still the case. I talked to a young person two weeks ago who said she's not allowed to drive a manual transmission car.

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[–] Tuss@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Same in Sweden. Most people get a license for manual and then buy an automatic.

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[–] Powerbomb@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

31,Sweden

Yes, and I prefer a manual car to an automatic. It keeps me a lot more dialed in while driving.

[–] ogeist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

35, living in Europe, I had to re-learn manual. I had only automatics in Latin America. It is certainly more fun and I feel I'm actually driving.

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[–] severien@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm from Europe, I was taught on manual transmission and drove with it for 10 years. But I switched to automatic (actually not on purpose, I didn't notice the car I was buying had it), and now vastly prefer it.

[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I don't care what people say, automatic is superior.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can, not well, but I can. damn hill starts.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not sure how common it is now but some cars had a "hill holder" feature that would hold the brake for you when starting on a hill. Makes that whole process much, much easier.

[–] Hunter2@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Just pull the parking brake and accelerate until you feel the car slightly raising and then drop the parking brake.

Eventually you get a feeling for it and drop the parking brake before it's "fighting" the accelerator.

This might sound trivial to some, but I know several people that never use the parking brake in these situations and instead do a manic race with their feet and the car drops a couple meters back and they over accelerate to compensate.

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[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 43 points 1 year ago (13 children)

23, US. Yes, but I find them pointless for daily driver cars. Modern automatics are more fuel efficient and just make more sense because they're much easier to operate and less annoying in stop and go traffic.

They're great for off-roading and racing, but outside of those use cases automatics are just better.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm almost 30, living US and don't know how to drive a manual.

I just don't understand the purpose of learning or the superiority complex around those that drive manual. In my region of the world, the vast majority of cars are automatic to the point where you might have to straight up custom order a vehicle to get manual.

Sure, if I'm outside of the US, manual might be the standard in some areas...but I have no interest in attempting to drive a vehicle in a foreign country where I don't know their local laws of the road. I'd rather take public transport or use services like taxis, Ubers, Lifts, etc.

It's the year 2023. Automatic cars nowadays are more efficient than manuals in a majority of cases.

If you want to drive a manual or you prefer manuals, that's great! More the power to you and I'm glad you like it! But to have a superiority complex about it is just odd.

It's like some boomer making fun of a gen Z kid for not knowing how to use a VCR. So what? You don't to learn how to use a VCR in 2023.

Again, this is in terms of my region. I get that manuals are common in other regions. But again, I have no interest in driving in a region where I don't know the local rules of the road.

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[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My car has a manual transmission. I learned to drive on a manual transmission. I prefer it. When I drive a car with automatic transmission, I step on its nonexistent clutch.

I still instinctively press the non-clutch when I have to slam on the brakes

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[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes.

In Europe you basically have to be handicapped to not learn to drive manual. Most people get the manual driving license because it allows you to drive both, whereas the automatic one doesn't.

Manual transmission was and often still is cheaper, often cheaper to repair, often more reliable, often uses less fuel, and in cheap and less powerful cars the combination is often better. Because there are so many manual cars here, including at rental places, it's a no brainer to learn to drive manual.

This being said, that's changing. Also, less and less young people are getting a driving license due to affordability and cars no longer being the status symbol they once were.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Europe you basically have to be handicapped to not learn to drive manual.

That's changing though, I see many people taking their driving lessons in EVs, which in turn means they'll only be able to drive automatics. I guess that won't bother them too much as they'll probably only want to drive EVs anyway, or else they would've chosen to take their lessons in a regular manual like most people

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[–] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 20 points 1 year ago

31, Germany, I can't drive at all. City kid.

[–] CookieMonsterDebate@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. Europe. We pretty much all do. Automatics are becoming a bit more common in recent years, but 90% of cars here are still manual. Especially the old beat-up cars we learn to drive on are all manual. And if by chance you learned on an automatic, and pass your driver's test on automatic, it says so on your driver's licence and I think you're not actually allowed to drive/rent manual cars.

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[–] blewit@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Early 50s, USA - you bet! And I could also roll up a window, light a cigarette from the lighter, set an AM station by pulling the tuner knob and pushing the desired station button, and burn my ass on a hot vinyl bench seat! Good times!

[–] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Of course, 28, French. 99,99% of people here drive manual (or at least know how to).

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure North America is the only part of the world where automatic is the default.

I'm American and learned on a manual, which I drove for a decade and a half. But I'm one of the few people I know my age who can drive a stick.

Plenty of Boomers can drive stick though.

[–] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, but only on motorcycles. That's because there's no such thing as an automatic motorcycle[^1][^2][^3][^4][^5], so you have to learn manual if you want to ride one. Unfortunately this skill doesn't transfer well to manual driving because on bikes you operate the clutch with your hand and the shift with your foot. I'm not terribly worried about that, though... I've literally never even been on the inside of a manual drive car before!

For context: I'm mid-20s from the American south.

[^1]: No, electrics don't count. [^2]: No, semi-autos don't count. [^3]: No, three-wheelers don't count. [^4]: No, the 2006 Yamaha bikes don't count because that line was a sales failure. [^5]: Ok, fine. Honda's DCT bikes do count, but holy shit are they expensive!

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[–] Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago

Germany, 25, yup

[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mid 30s Aussie living the the US. Yes I can drive a manual, yes I do drive a manual and yes I think it should be mandatory for 100% of learning drivers regardless of whether they plan to daily drive an automatic or manual when licensed.

The quality of driving here is considerably worse here than what I've experienced in Australia or Europe and I'm convinced requiring people to drive in a machine that forces them to consider the next ~100m leads to higher quality, more mindful drivers.

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[–] B21@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

UAE, mid 20s and I know how to drive a manual but went with an automatic.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Majority of people do in Europe.

Because it is better to also know how to drive manual, than to only know how to drive automatic.

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[–] matey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

Yes, unless you want to still have an engine, then no.

[–] ZickZack@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

24, always driven manual, EU.
From my experience most people in the EU can or at least could: This is because many (if not all, not sure) countries make a distinction between manual and automatic licenses (see e.g. https://www.learn-automatic.com/qualified/automatic-driving-licence/).
I.e. if you want to drive manual, you have to take the test manual, but if you take the test on manual transmission, you are allowed to drive automatics as well.

[–] Valdair@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (15 children)

This thread is an amusing display of sample bias. Only people that want to respond yes and brag about it bothering to respond.

In reality only about 2/3rds of people in the US can drive stick and almost no one owns manual cars.

I've never driven a manual car. I've had people be like "You can't drive manual?!" and then I would respond "So are you going to teach me?" The answer is always No, of course not, not in their car (assuming they even owned a manual, which none do anymore). My parents had manual cars but sold them 10+ years before having me.

I understand how a clutch works. It wouldn't be difficult to learn. But what reason or motivation is there to learn when almost no cars are manual? They total something like 2% of new car sales. If you're buying something like a 718 GT4 RS or a 911 GT3 RS for maximum driving engagement that's great, but those cars are priced for the 1% of the 1%.

Even if you had a fun car, which I do, the drive to work is stop-and-go, roads are full, even the fun country backroads are filled with traffic on weekends, forests are burned down, gas is eye-watteringly expensive if you have a slightly performant vehicle. The time to have fun driving cars was 40 years ago.

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[–] root@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Early 40s from Australia. I can drive a manual, but my present car is automatic. My motorcycle is manual though. :p

[–] PixelOfLife@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep. 27, Finland. I learned on a manual (in the EU, if you learn on an automatic, you're restricted to automatics only until you pass the driving exam in a manual) and drove manuals until a few years ago when my late grandma's health started declining and her car got passed down to us because she could no longer drive.

[–] mrsgreenpotato@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

29, Poland/Germany. Yes, like almost everyone in Europe. Although, it is getting more popular to be automatic-only. I like driving manual, however prefer automatic due to convenience of it. I don't have a car at the moment (public transport serves me well), but if I had, I'd go for automatic.

[–] Cerothen@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

This is exactly my sentient.

Canada mid 30s. A car is essentially required outside of a major city but after my first two cars were manual the incredible inconvenience of crawling traffic got to me and my current car is an automatic.

I found I had to constantly hug the car in front which meant always feathering the clutch, if I didn't and the gap grew just large enough for a car to fit someone always jumped lanes into the gap.

[–] I_like_cats@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Female, 34, from Indiana, USA. Currently driving a 2020 Honda Civic SI and I love it. My bro taught me to drive stick at 16 so that I'd never be in a situation where I needed to leave but couldn't because I didn't know how to drive manual. I've had both automatic and manual transmissions, manual being my favorite.

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[–] And009@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

India, been driving manual since 20 yr old , been a while and planning to get an auto

[–] coffee@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

German, late 30s. Automatic cars are rather uncommon in Germany, we sure like our manuals. Not being able to push my car into high RPMs when needed to overtake or accelerate quickly takes the fun out of driving. I'd never switch to automatic as long as I still have both arms and legs. And yes I know kickdowns are a thing, but it really doesn't compare.

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[–] cowfodder@unilem.org 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. Early 40s, USA, both mine and my wife's cars are manual Subarus.

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[–] m_r_butts@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm 237 years old, a retired phosphate miner in Nauru. I learned to drive on manual transmissions but now refuse to drive anything not powered by a turbo-encabulator, with the exception of Starfleet shuttlecraft. I also hate questions that encourage people to give away personal or census data without considering that is what's happening.

Your stripper name is City Where You We’re Born + Can You Drive Stick Shift + The Last 4 Of Your SSN.

Damn they got me again

[–] PRIMALmarauder@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I can and do drive a manual transmission. I'm 34 and in the US Midwest. It's just more fun to drive. My car isn't even fast, but dropping a couple gears to pass someone never gets old.

[–] Rayleigh@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

28, Germany. Yes I can and I dont know anybody with a drivers license who cant.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

UK, always driven manual. I just enjoy it more.

[–] BurntRiddles@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I can from Texas. Just turned 40. I was taught on a manual transmission and have owned several vehicles with one. I prefer it, except for in traffic!

[–] johnthedoe@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I can’t. Lots of people my age can. My teenage years there was only one car in the household and it’s an auto. I couldn’t afford to pay for extra lessons to learn manual with their car.

I was into cars and really wanted to get a manual car later on. But just never needed it. Auto cars are just more available so 10+ years later I still can’t drive manual and hasn’t affected my life at all

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