Consider the hyena 🐶 😉
Consider the Xenomorph (but only in Alien 1, not the woke collectivist Xenomorphs in the sequel)
Didn't they have a monarch?
Disappointed this is not about the DFW essay
Peterson wrote an essay about DFW?
Peterson’s arguments in general rest upon a shit ton of cherry picking. Like that whole “mythologies show men are order, women are chaos” bit completely falls apart the moment you look past the handful of carefully selected examples he uses (Loki, being the hugely obvious one).
bottom feeder moment
Lobsters piss from their faces
That's all you need to know
Consider a lobster that was a rock
I'm sure he's saying "Even the lobster, so far and alien from us, has hierarchy, let alone animals closer to us likes apes and cats", which may or may not be true but commits the naturalistic fallacy off the bat. Obviously, he's not making a logical argument but a rhetorical one, though he's bad at that (at least to people who don't agree with him). And you can obviously find communal animals, though it would be hard to say sheep are bolsheviks or whatever.
It's worth mentioning that humans are capable of overcoming their biological impulses because of our developed frontal lobe and our ability for metacognition.
Just because something (allegedly) exists in human nature or it's part of our primordial state of being doesn't mean that we must therefore indulge in it and create a society around that phenomenon.
This sort of appeal is just nonsense.
If you believe so sincerely in human nature then log off of twitter already and ~~go to Albania~~ go live in a cave somewhere, you absolute freak.
If he had considered the chimpanzee, the gorilla, the orangutan or the bonobo, far closer cousins, he's not going to find anything like the "natural order" he envisions.
I'm glad we're brushing past Mike Cernovich's considerably dumber analogy to "gorilla mindset."
Gorilla mindset? What’s that, the mindset of sitting my ass in the forest and lounging about while I digest raw leaves?
I don't know what he intended it to be, but it's not at all an argument against Marxism.
Marxism isn't "hierarchies should literally never exist ever" it's "the bourgeoisie exploits the proletarians" You still have things like managers and foremen in socialist states (although they can be rotating positions, or responsibilities can be spread out and democratized). It's just like that book Anthem by Ayn Rand where people have weights on their ears to make them slower. It's a fundamental misunderstanding.
Anyone who felt like they needed to seriously grapple with his weird idealism and calling themselves a Marxist should seriously re-examine how much they know about Marxism and consider
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reading theory
I guess maybe if you're an anarchist you have to grapple with it
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hoo hoo funny meme dunking on the cringe anarkiddies! Hee hee i am so very funny!
aw i'm sorry i was just joking
I’m sorry i overreacted
That's okay
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