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https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/149cq9f/reddit_were_sorry/ (Full post)

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/149cq9f/comment/jo4gy94/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 (One comment)

"This is the most neckbeard thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Reddit is a business trying to make money, no shit they are going to get rid of third party apps eventually. Welcome to the real world. You are not being oppressed. This protest has zero effect on anything other than just inconveniencing users. If losing third party apps ruins your reddit experience (oh no) just find another app or website."

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/149cq9f/comment/jo4fs7t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 (Another comment that got gold)

"This is absolutely stupid virtue signaling. It’s just a few power hungry mods pretending to add some meaning to their life so the other 99% can’t use the platform.

None of us regular people give a crap about the changes. Get over it."

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[–] iwan2c@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

well we did find another app or website

[–] spacepotato@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reminder of how stupid and toxic some communities are

[–] NoRezervationz@lemmy.website 1 points 2 years ago

Also remember there are "free market" apologists that think a business should be able to charge whatever they want, whenever they want. Charging so much for access that it drives servicew/apps to shutdown is not ok on any level.

[–] PrinceHabib72@vlemmy.net 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Well that was a frustrating read. I don't get it. Why are people so okay with reddit treating them like garbage?

[–] catboss@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those are Gamers™.

They aren't exactly people known for their critical thinking. They are however known for eating a whole bunch of shit from game publishers and devs, even going as far as thanking them for being able to buy said crap-sandwich.

[–] axtualdave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I was going to say, "Gamers are being buttholes? No way."

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Those are most likely the same people who think games should have paid dlc on day one and paywalls in games. Best to never think about em until they are all crying that Reddit turns into 90% ads for onlyfans

[–] PrinceHabib72@vlemmy.net 2 points 2 years ago

At least here they're being shit on like the weak-willed idiots they are.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1494sa8/gaming_is_now_public

[–] haelusnovak@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope they do stay there. I don't want their drivel here. 🤷 If the main thing on their mind is being angry with the blackout, I can only imagine the content they would contribute to their communities anyway. 😵‍💫

[–] popcornheadlines@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's crazy how many people would shill for a company because theyre slightly inconvenienced

[–] Thalyssa@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

"I can't use Reddit for two days 😭"

Boo-fucking-hoo.

[–] Khorgor666@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have to say imo it would be awesome if the "Rexxit" leads to a split between people interested in tech and ready for change and the "normies" that just want to see funny cat pictures. I am mightily impressed by the whole Lemmyverse and all the stuff one can do here.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Having even the slightest technical barrier to entry is a quick way to increase the quality of user-user experience. It takes a dedicated shit-poster to troll a brand new platform with a reduced audience and unusual community layout.

[–] relevants@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

That one comment saying "the mods take it too seriously, they act like they get paid" How anyone could use that as an argument against the blackout is beyond me

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

As a mod, I've gotten: hate mail, death threats, and Reddit cares notifications for posting that we would be restricted indefinitely.

[–] Kuroneko@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

There are lots of corporate bootlickers coming out of the woodwork. I wouldn’t be surprised if they turn out to be Reddit employee sockpuppet accounts.

[–] Ashhwaghandaa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

People like to dig their head in the sand and pretend nothing is wrong. As long as their little lives aren’t disrupted, they go along with anything. I can’t say I entirely blame them, everyone just wants to come home from work/school and scroll on their stupid little app till they fall asleep and don’t have the energy to care. That’s literally what I do every night :/

But we have more power than we think. The first day of the blackout was great, people working together to say fuck you to capitalism, but going back to normal before any changes are made is not how protesting works.

[–] clyde@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I think it's important to remember a lot of people participating in the blackout are still on a break from Reddit and aren't commenting on these kinds of posts.
Anyway, we did indeed "just find another app or website", so we're good.

[–] michikade@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t think anyone has a problem with a business trying to make money. The problem is the extortionate pricing and also not having things in place for mods or the communities with accessibility needs. And the timeframe in which the change is being implemented is ludicrous. And that isn’t even touching on the literal libel stating that Christian was blackmailing them.

[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

99.9% of their userbase weren't even aware of third party apps, which frustrates me even more.

[–] PrinceHabib72@vlemmy.net 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, but remember the 1% rule. 90% of users lurk, 9% comment, 1% contribute. The power users upset at this change are at least in the 9%, if not the 1%, and enough of them go, the site grinds to a halt for the other 90%.

[–] Richie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

It looks like a lot of ~~people~~ idiots think the blackout is pointless and support Reddit’s choice

These aren't real people. These are Bots.

[–] Khalic@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can also find a few real specimens, a quick look through their history will show you the kind of subs they like and the kind of mindset they are in. Unfortunately, as much as I live video games, we suck so bad as a “community”

[–] MrSalPal@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love video games. It’s my main hobby and has been ever since I moved Link around in The legend of Zelda. Gamers are fucking idiots. It’s that community that has fully cemented the shittiest monetization possible in any entertainment medium and they DEFEND it. It’s no surprise that those from that circle would also defend reddits shit decisions.

[–] Nikelui@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I have some hope left for the community after discovering r/patientgamers. It's encouraging to see that not everyone is buying into the overpriced AAA bug-infested pre-order crap these days.

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[–] 00Lemming@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Frankly one of my favorite parts about the blackout - and opinions like this - is that Lemmy is going to end up being populated by people who have the capacity to think about others and form intelligent opinions. All of the people with this attitude will stay on reddit, which is what will ultimately kill it. I hope he stays.

[–] Timwi@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

An unfortunate corollary of that is that we can only have a limited good time in the Fediverse. Eventually Reddit collapses and then they will all flock over and ruin it for us. (Or this’ll happen very gradually rather than suddenly.)

[–] JetpackJackson@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I really like how here people tend to make longer comments and have nice discussions and stuff.

[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] coldv@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Tbh it's like the Twitter migration. Anybody who actually cares has left and it's mostly dickheads that remains now.

[–] quzyp@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Predictable and moronic reactions.

  1. Some people just love to feel superior by mocking people who demand change
  2. Some people love to feel superior by pretending they knew that this would happen
  3. Some people love to feel superior by implying the other side are clueless kids, hippies, idiots who know nothing about the real world.

I think the whole reddit issue can be summed up very concisely. The users liked reddit because it was simple to use, free of ads and other distracting bullshit. That's how they got big. But there's no money in that. For some reason, investors still threw money at it. Now, they want their money back and reddit has 2000 employees. They need to find more and more ways to make money, which effectively kills the reason reddit got popular in the first place.

TL;DR don't invest gazillions in a site simply because it has many users.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

A lot of it is due to some lack of information, and a lot of news outlets only telling part of the story.

I was seeing stuff on CNBC, Reuters, and Louis Rossman and stuff on youtube talking about the protests, and everyone one of them leaves out critical information. Some people see it as moderators being upset about losing tools, others see it as third party app developers being upset about having to pay a fee to reddit. But they leave out that moderators are volunteers and arent paid to moderate, and would have to pay to be able to do so from a third party app. Or that reddit is asking for a ridiculous amount of money in less than a month for app developers to access their APIs. Overall theyll talk about a few points but miss on others.

It creates a lack of a sense of urgency or meaning to all this. "Regular people" think no one wants to pay reddit and get stuff for free, or that mods are power tripping.

But theres still 15 days before apps shut down and then people may change their tune once they cant access reddit using their favorite app of choice.

[–] KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

In other words the person admits to being ableist as the API change is killing apps that help those with disabilities, unlike reddits app

[–] Timwi@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I do think the blackouts are pointless, but I absolutely do not support Reddit Inc. in any way.

What the moderators should do instead of blackouts, is to stop moderating and let all the major subreddits be overrun by spam and hatespeech. Good luck with your IPO and with finding advertisers after that. That would have been a much more effective way to communicate how valuable the volunteers at Reddit are.

[–] QHC@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The whole idea of a protest being pointless is pointless!

Protests often do not accomplish their stated goal in the moment. That doesn't mean there wasn't an effect, it may just take awhile (or more protests) to be noticed. Even if it doesn't ever have a measurable effect, the idea that people should just shut up and not express themselves is completely contrary to all of the ideals of democracy.

[–] VoxAdActa@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly. A two-day+ blackout is a warning. "Check your metrics. See that red line? This time, it's temporary. Next time could be permanent. Just saying. Anyway, how're those accessibility features coming along?"

Everyone saying "it's pointless" or "it failed" is not seeing beyond the tip of their own noses. It only "failed" if moderators and Redditors aren't willing to follow through on the threat come July. We have yet to see if that's the case.

[–] Timwi@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I described a way of protesting that I think would be more effective and impactful. “People should just shut up” is the opposite of what I said. Where did you get the idea that I said that?

[–] fear@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

The username of the commenter is so ironic. The guy who invented transcendental meditation did the same thing to meditation that spez did to reddit's API. TM is meditation's superfluous third nipple and heavily monetized. Anyone can meditate for free, but for it to be considered "transcendental", you must pay a certified teacher and learn through them. I guess some people just like it when people are charged for things unnecessarily.

[–] count_smith@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

People on reddit say the blackout is pointless, but it brought awareness to reddit's shitty behavior towards its community. Of course the 2 day protest would not bring down reddit, but it showed they don't care about the community concerns by not changing their stance at all. Why would I continue using that site then? These recent events have made me feel like not using reddit anymore so I won't.

[–] SaucyGoodness@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The funny thing is, if reddit's app wasn't such a raging piece of garbage, I might have considered staying. But because it's such a putrid waste of space I literally just cannot use the site any more.

When RIF goes, so does reddit for me. I primarily use the site on my phone, so a good app is vital. And if none exists, then, well... What to do?

Then again, if it wasn't this, then I am sure they have removed old.reddit instead. And for the few times I am on my PC to look at reddit, I would not have been able to stomach it.

TLDR; the reddit app is genuinely an affront to all things sacred in the world.

[–] KillaBeez@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I know it's not great, but is it really THAT bad? Is it honestly worse than navigating Lemmy?

Don't get me wrong, I'm DONE with Reddit. But is all of this really just because they don't like the official app or is there something more?

[–] WaffleFriends@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

When the blackouts started, I decided to leave reddit permanently for Lemmy, a decision that I don't regret. I checked back in briefly today and it seems like reddit is currently tearing itself apart. There's definitely a lot more people vocally disagreeing with the blackout now.

[–] Zamboniman@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There’s definitely a lot more ~~people~~ bots vocally disagreeing with the blackout now.

FTFY.

Of course, there are indeed plenty of real people, along with bots, disagreeing. Their daily Reddit routine has been disrupted, and they don't like it. Of course, these folks aren't generally affected (so far) by API changes, so they just want things to go back to what they were. They don't understand what is coming, given the mod issues, etc.

[–] Ashhwaghandaa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That’s good to hear! I haven’t looked. Hopefully word gets out about Lemmy and more people join us over here.

[–] YouNaughtyMonsters@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I checked back in briefly today and it seems like reddit is currently tearing itself apart.

How so?

[–] WaffleFriends@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I just saw a lot of threads with people arguing over -2 day blackout didn't do shit -I don't care, why should you -Where's all the content, I want the content back -A blackout was really inconvenient

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