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[–] tetrachromacy@lemmy.world 157 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It helps if your two choices for president aren't Father Time and the Orange Rage Demon.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Father Time and the Orange Rage Demon sounds like a great B-movie, though 😄

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[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

You dropped your p

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[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 126 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Don't believe the hype, FUCKING VOTE!!! Volunteer to give rides for those that can't make it to vote otherwise.

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Believe this hype; You can make a difference.

I lived in Florida in 2000. If I had recruited a couple friends, and I knew people who would have been down, and we drove vans back and forth to the polls all day...

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago (5 children)

On a side note: Just the fucking fact that people would need a ride to vote also shows that

a) Voting is too damn hard in the US. I know that the Republican party has been working (and keeps working) hard on making voting nearly impossible, because less votes is better for them, but seriously: make voting easier.

b) The US is extremely over dependent on cars. In the Netherlands almost nobody would drive their car to go vote, you use a bike. Why? Because the cities in the country are designed for people first, not for cars first. Start modifying your cities to not require cars. Add bicycle roads, actually invest in public transportation, add pedestrian walk ways. The US sucks for human beings, it's awesome for cars.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Voting is too damn hard in the US.

It's too damn hard in certain states.

I'm in California, and am signed up for vote by mail, which anyone can do. Ballot gets mailed to me well in advance, I can take my time filling it out and researching down ballot issues, and plop it in a mailbox when I'm done.

It's criminal to me that this isn't the norm.

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[–] NecroParagon@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago

This is what I did for the 2018 midterms. Some of my friends didn't really get why I was so adamant, but I dropped their assess at the church and let them vote. It do work.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 81 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That's the only way that democracy is not in imminent danger.

If fascism is only beaten by the same tight margin that more sane and humane (but still neurotic and cruel) conservatism was for the second presidential election in a row, that means that the second largest party in the richest and most powerful country in the world being a fascist party has become the norm rather than just an unusually persistent aberration.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I hope she picks a good VP and not wet blanket like democratic establishment would want.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It appears she's looking at people who could swing a purple state, so that probably won't excite anyone hoping for a progressive ticket.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Almost as if you need to win before you can do anything at all.

Like it or not, the reality of the electoral college.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (8 children)

You can win in multiple different ways, not simply picking a purple state moderate. The whole reason there's a story about "more youth voters like Harris" is because more youth voters could help her win. And the youths notably live in every swing state.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (11 children)

The youth are not historically known for showing up to vote.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's what the media says, but kids these days are showing up more than their parents were at their age.

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[–] SeriousMite@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Tim waltz seems like a good pick. Seems to have a bit of the Bernie, no-bullshit, authenticity that plays well with independents.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (13 children)

My preference is as follows:

  1. Mark Kelly - Pros: Astronaut/Navy Combat Pilot; will pull veterans and people voting for novelty. He generally has moderate policies and won a national race in a battleground state. His Senate seat is safe because Gov. Hobbs (D) can appoint another Dem to fill it.

  2. Pete Buttigieg - Also a veteran, oxford/rhodes scholar; one of the best debaters in D.C. Coming from a Cabinet position so does not risk any loss.

  3. Whitmer - Contrary to some, I like the idea of doubling-down on women in this post-Roe, MeToo era. She brings a lot to the table, but she's no longer in the running as she (a) both publicly and privately declined, and (b) she like Shapiro would be better off carrying their respective battleground states without either state feeling like they've been abandoned.

  4. Jon Stewart - He won't do it, but hear me out: Viral excitement; strong debater; cross-over appeal to veterans & first-responders thanks to his decades of helping them. The Zelenskyy of our nation. Counter lies and half-truths with satire and mockery.

I DON'T think Harris should pick Cooper, Beshear, Walz, or especially Newsom.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Mark Kelly was one of the people giving standing ovations and clapping away at Bibi's speech to Congress. That really made my stomach churn.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

... Ah yeah, that is kind of a bummer.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Mark Kelly looks good on paper, but his pro genocide and lukewarm stance towards unions is a wet blanket. Do people find him genuine?

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[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I like your list. I think Mark Kelly is the obvious best choice and I hope she lands on him. Novelty factor is strong, it would be foolish to underestimate the astronaut card. He balances the ticket well and might also help win Arizona.

Jon Stewart would be absolutely hilarious, though. If nothing else than for a potential VP debate with alleged couch fornicator Vance.

[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Damn I really want Jon Stewart to get into actual political office. He's probably the most trusted voice out of anyone for my generation.

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[–] suction@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (7 children)

If you felt “meh” about doing the utmost to avoid Trump, you might just be an idiot,

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Remember, if they're voting in their first election this year, there's a decent chance they were under ten before Trump emerged on the scene as a politician. They don't remember what it used to be like. They think this is normal.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (23 children)

Shit, you're absolutely right but I never thought about it that way.

Jesus, we've let these kids down. This is all they've known through their adolescence...

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

Fucking yikes. That's terrifying.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Young people are not renowned for their wisdom.

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[–] MrWafflesNBacon@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago
[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 27 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Shocker, few can relate to an octogenarian running for office.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It has nothing to do with his age. His brain is on vacation. Bernie Sanders is older than Biden, but if he were the nominee we'd see the same enthusiasm as we're seeing for Harris.

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[–] tearsintherain@leminal.space 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

If you're complaining about all the people who are now coming on board you should probably just stfu and get on board with the new nominee and face the facts that people calling for Biden to exit were right and you were wrong. That it did matter and it made a huge difference.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago

I honestly thought it was a bad idea to pivot to Harris but I was happily proven wrong. There's so much excitement and energy surrounding her. Like a breath of fresh air. Glad to see it.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 22 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Am I the only one sad because a “serious” publication allows a headline with “meh” instead of apathetic?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It’s in quotes, so I think they made it clear they were quoting something the young people might say.

I don’t know if they’re right that the 18-35s use that word very often, but I think that’s what they’re going for.

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[–] Corgana@startrek.website 10 points 3 months ago

You're not alone, there are hundreds of Lemmy users who hold equally vocal opinions over details irrelevant to the point.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Less meh?

You mean they are showing less voter apathy

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[–] finley@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Oh, some good news. Finally!

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (6 children)

If they want to have a future, a lot more of them should get to feeling zero "meh" about voting for not donnie.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (6 children)

They just showed the party what to do in order to get them excited to vote.

The party listened to their concerns, and they fell in line instantly. All the party has to do to get voter enthusiasm is to listen to the voters.

You don't get enthusiasm by ignoring people's concerns. That's how you get apathy and resentment.

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[–] razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (7 children)

She should just pick Clooney as VP so we can be done with it already.

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