China is honestly light years ahead of the US. I live in one of the most expensive cities in the US and am here on vacation for a month traveling through China and it is insane how far ahead of us they are. From the high speed rail system that I have been using to go from city to city, the absolute cleanliness everywhere, no crime, no worry about getting pick pocketed/mugged, nice friendly people, no homelessness, no tent cities, affordable/cheap prices for food and basic necessities. Every little town I pass I the high speed line had massive construction going on from high density apartments to infrastructure. Honestly the only complaints I have is that the entire country is hot as balls right now and the food situation is a bit rough as a person who's both vegan and a somewhat picky eater, they only seem to have mainly Chinese food everywhere and as good as it is I need some variety in my diet and it is hard finding all vegan places as well.

I honestly I have now come to realize that the reason we are so strongly propagandized against China in the US is that it would break the average Americans brain if you saw how well they are living here compared to the absolute under-devoloped shit we put up with in the US.

Ask me any questions you have and I can also post pics if interested!

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[–] Dbumba@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What's the visa process like? I also live in the states for reference.

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Filled out a lengthy online form, printed it out along with some visa pictures and went to the consulate to apply, it took two days for them to approve it and they gave me a 10 year multi-entry visa.

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Is it true that a lot of the public restrooms don't have toilet paper? I swear that pops up in every "what to know if you travel to China" article I've ever read.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was there earlier this year, and It was my experience there. Every so often one would have tp, but for the most part it was not provided. It may depend on where you are. Hotels have plenty though and you can just stuff a wad in your bag, and the public restrooms are absolutely everywhere, which coming from somewhere in the US where they’ve basically gone the way of the dodo is so refreshing.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I watched Perfect Days yesterday and my chief takeaway from the experience was goddamn the US has garbage public restrooms

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know of one truly public restroom within 20 miles in any direction of me. Even McDonald’s locks their bathrooms and requires codes now. I have a bad bladder, so anytime I’m anywhere for more than an hour or two I have to find a place to buy something in order to be able to pee.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

NYC is awful for this and the handful of public restrooms that exist are fucking disgusting

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

I heard that before i came here, but so far all of them have had toilet paper, including the ones on the train (which also have the in ground toilets which I love!)

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Portable bidet gang rise up!

[–] pudcollar@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

CuloClean! Fits in a water bottle!

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

shanghai looks like a city of the future no lies

[–] ByroTriz@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Where are you? I've been to China recently and it doesn't reflect my experience at all

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[–] ClericalBlunt@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How much did you budget? Id like to visit eventually for a week or two but I have no idea on the cost. Ive never left the US.

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

We don't have a budget (I know I'm lucky), but food/cabs/most stuff is super cheap. Can get a good meal for around $5 us, a DiDi (China Uber) from the train stations to our hotels have typically been around $7 for ~30 min trips and most museums and attractions we've been to have been under $10/person.

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[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Is it true beer costs a dollar a liter there?

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[–] abfarid@startrek.website 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This reads a lot like Tucker Carlson's "they have shopping carts and fresh bread".
Btw, most of the listed positives apply to EU, too, for example, you just chose to compare it with the worst case scenario.

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

I've travelled to the EU a bunch and no it doesn't. There's not a single city in all of Europe (or the anglo world for that matter) that compared to the top tier Chinese cities.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Worst case? stalin-point

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 6 points 3 months ago

Yes, the US. Are you not familiar? Practically unrestricted capitalism, where corporation run the show.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

this reads a lot like cope

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (7 children)

One critical thing to note is that this wealth has been built quite rapidly, as comparing China 25 years ago and China now feels almost ludicrous due to almost all observable metrics improving markedly. China has gone from being poorer than the poorest African nation per capita to an equivalent standard of living to Western Europe in many cities, which is a continent which was able to develop off the back of colonization that China did not employ.

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