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[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It provides a false sense of security for the left even though they should still definitely be worried. The past week is reminiscent of 2016 when everyone thought Trump was a joke candidate and Hillary was going to crush him.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's one thing to remember, troll factories don't just shove out the same piece of propaganda. They try disenfranchise, disinterest, and even guide the people they don't want to win towards candidates and policies they know will play into their hands. Kamala Harris is certainly a good candidate - for democrats. She's not likely to influence Trumpers, and a more traditional candidate might have been more popular with anyone who really was undecided. A better option might have been to appeal to times when politics wasn't as divided, and I have even joked that someone like John Kerry with Mitt Romney as VP would have been a sure win.

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Kamala's a very traditional candidate, if we're talking about her record. Trump, on the other hand, is the only President in US history to've never held public office or served in the military before being elected. Very non-traditional.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

It's the left who is dividing us by having the R's run a convicted felon! I don't understand how anybody doesn't understand this !!

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If the voters that mattered bothered to look at records, there would be no Trumpers. Sadly, I feel it has to be shoved into their face in the most traditionally stereotypical matter. Harris might seem to be doing good, but here is how good Hillary was doing before she lost to Trump: https://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/23/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html

The problem isn't on the left, it's on a weighted and loaded electoral system that favors those most likely to be susceptible to misinformation.

Anyway, since it's beside the point as Harris seems pretty set, I just hope it does not play out like Hillary versus Clinton and hope that she gets elected. This times are different, but so is the degree to which people have bubbled themselves within their social networks and the most able to discern it are those who own them, who are basically in the same league as Trump and quite capable of shoving money and influence into them.