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Thousands of authors demand payment from AI companies for use of copyrighted works::Thousands of published authors are requesting payment from tech companies for the use of their copyrighted works in training artificial intelligence tools, marking the latest intellectual property critique to target AI development.

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[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems like people are afraid that AI can do it when i can do it too. But their reason for freaking out is....??? It's not like AI is calling up publishers trying to get Harry Potter 8 published. If i ask it to create Harry Potter 1 but change his name to Gary Trotter it's not the AI that is doing something bad, it's me.

That was my point. I can memorize text and its only when I play it off as my own that it's wrong. No one cares that I memorized the first chapter and can recite it if I'm not trying to steal it.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not correct. The issue is not whether you play it off as your own, but how much the damages are that you can be sued for. If you recite something that you memorized in front of a handful of friends, the damages are non-existant and hence there is no point in sueing you.

But if you give a large commercial concert and perform a cover song without permission, you will get sued, no matter if you say "This song is from and not from me", because it's not about giving credit, it's about money.

And regarding getting something published: This is not so much about big name art like Harry Potter, but more about people doing smaller work. For example, voice actors (both for movie translations and smaller things like announcements in public transport) are now routinely replaced by AI that was trained on their own voices without their permission.

Similar story with e.g. people who write texts for homepages and ad material. Stuff like that. And that has real-world consequences already now.

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

The issue is not whether you play it off as your own, but how much the damages are that you can be sued for.

I think that's one in the same. I'm just not seeing the damages here because the output of the AI doesn't go any further than being AI output without a further human act. Authors are idiots if they claim "well someone could ask ChatGPT to output my entire book and you could read it for free." If you want to go after that type of crime then have ChatGPT report the users asking for it. If your book is accessible via a library I'm not see any difference between you asking ChatGPT to write in someone's style and asking me to write in their style. If you ask ChatGPT for lines verbatim i can recite them too. I don't know what legitimate damages they are claiming.

For example, voice actors

I think this is a great example but again i feel like the law is not only lacking but would need to outlaw other human acts not currently considered illegal.

If you do impressions you're mimicking the tone, cadence and selection of language someone else does. You arent recording them and playing back the recording, you are using your own voice box to create a sound similar to the celebrity. An AI sound generator isn't playing back a recording either. It's measuring tone, cadence, and language used and creates a new sound similar to the celebrity. The only difference here is that the AI would be more precise than a humans ability to use their voice.