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[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He fucked up the COVID response so bad that the cognitive dissonance in the country led directly to a undermining of just about every institution that would be responsible for handling it. His embracing of obvious lies in public because they played to his base while acknowledging the truth of those thing in private, creating a dichotomy of response that actually played anyone without their head up their ass directly against those that did, within groups inside his own administration!

His admin helped facilitate a vaccine he then directly undermined! Then he tries to take credit for that work constantly.

Like honestly I was almost with you until you said that last bit which is hand down one of the dumbest things in context I've ever seen.

[–] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, his non-existent leadership during that time lead to over a million dead Americans and the worst economic downturn since the great depression. Just imagine if he got out in front of the pandemic by sending out MAGA facemasks to every household in the country... Trusting scientific experts who said facemasks help prevent transmission instead of going on TV and saying he "doesn't think he's going to do it...". From this moment on, our pandemic response was fucked.

[–] AIhasUse@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You think biden's almighty leadership skills would have saved any more? So many people died because morons wouldn't even wear masks, let alone distance.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I really feel like you've purposefully shoved down the memory hole how much of the anti mask rhetoric came directly from Trump's cabinet and network, and how he refused to wear them in public, expect for a couple occasions, because they would mess up his makeup.

That not even talking and how he would undermine anything coming out of the CDC that wasn't positive or contradicted one of the stupid things he said.

Trump was uniquely terrible as a leader during COVID, honestly had he done an excellent job he probably would have been re-elected in 2020.

[–] AIhasUse@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trumps sheeple were and still are especially anti-science, and they would have been that way even if a blue boy was president. Americans' behavior killed Americans during covid, not a single fat man living in a bubble telling jokes on Twitter. He's not the almighty powerful demi-god you people make him out to be. He's just a dude. He poops like the rest of us. Don't give him so much power with your obsessive anti-worship.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes that's true, that true with almost every country. That doesn't remove any of the extenuating circumstances that Trump created as the executive in office at the time. And almost any other previous Republican or Democrat who had been in office would have done better.

Trump isn't a magician or something, he's was just a terrible president who mishandled every bit of communication. All you are doing is strawmanning a negative opinion against a person who had an important job and fucked it up.

[–] AIhasUse@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

If innocent lives lost is the metric then biden shot the bed. Not trump. What bombs did we supply to who while Trump was in office? I get that you don't care about innocent foreigners dying from your tax money, but your selfishness isn't all that matters. People in foreign countries matter too.