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[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 99 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

Huh. Call me provincial, but I had no idea that sovereign citizens existed outside of America. The idea of a Cypriot sovcit never occurred to me.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 98 points 4 months ago (6 children)

In Australia I knew I guy who was a SovCit and he would do stupid things like quote the bill of rights. We'd say "what bill of rights?" Australia doesn't have one. All his info came from the US and he just followed it with realising none of it was relevant in a different country.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 82 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be fair pretty much all the US sovcit stuff isn't relevant or applicable in the US either

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

True. But things like the UCC are real laws. Sovcits just hilariously misinterpret them. There is no such law in other countries. Plus sovcit stuff is based on common law. It makes even less sense in civil law jurisdictions.

[–] odium@programming.dev 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I did expect Australian and British sovcits, but didn't expect Greek ones.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't expect Spanish SovCits...

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

No-one expects The Spanish SovCit!

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I don't know man. Idiots are everywhere.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

None of it is relevant in the USA either, it’s all bullshit.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Were they one of the lost idiots waving a Trump flag during the Victoria lockdown protests? I still cringe to this day.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Fortunately I haven't bothered keeping up with him for many years, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was doing that. And protesting vaccinations too probably.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 8 points 4 months ago

There is a similar movement to SovCits that is at least properly adapted to other countries (specifically the Commonwealth and Ireland's) laws called "Freeman on the Land."

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We have people in Canada who demand their first amendment rights and put Trump stickers on their trucks. These people are not the smartest.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We call them "autonomous" in the Netherlands, and Germany has "imperial citizens".

Everywhere has its own flavour of these morons thanks to the Internet. And they often literally copy the talking points, and occasionally even laws.

[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they're called "wappies" in the Netherlands

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Well, Autonomen are a flavour of Wappies :P

[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We have a few so-called sovereign citizens in the UK.

And ONE actual sovereign citizen.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago

that would of course be count Binface, who is a space alien and thus obviously is only subject to any human law in so far as that he chooses to go along with it.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They have been identified in 26 countries.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

the internet was a mistake

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

It is effectively a memetic virus, and there's no SCP foundation to implement quarantine procedures...

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

It's nice to know America doesn't have ALL the idiots

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago

in general, things do exist out of the U.S, its just people in the U.S do it more publicly. Its like racism, and how some people think U.S is the most racist due to media and social media, its actually very far from that on the general scale of things when compared to other countries.

[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

The anti-vax conspiracy crowd in Britain is heavily SovCit. They seem to think the magna Carta means they can be selfish arseholes