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[–] mii@awful.systems 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Who is the target audience for this?

People who use Proton are privacy-conscious and mostly (I would argue) tech literate, and yet they shove spicy autocomplete that no one ever needed until two years ago and most people don’t want now because it produces complete horseshit, and spellchecking that every browser under then sun has built in by now.

And then they quietly say you need to use Chromium, so the people who use anything but (like, I don’t know, the majority of privacy-conscious folks who should be their main user base, lol) have their e2e broken?

I really hope they catch a raging firestorm for this.

(Also I’m really pissed right now because used to recommend them to people and now feel like a total jackass for doing that.)

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago

(Also I’m really pissed right now because used to recommend them to people and now feel like a total jackass for doing that.)

don’t feel bad for making the best choice you could with the information of the past. until we get a workable, interoperable, federated, encrypted communication/online services platform, the choice was to recommend one of the centralized e2e providers. we both chose to recommend Proton and they did this shit, but it could have just as easily been tutanota.

now my brain’s going “e2e encrypted federated email but it preferably uses activitypub as a transport and classic email as a fallback, is that anything”

[–] kgMadee2@mathstodon.xyz 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

@mii @self the blog post mentions 70% of "business users"
Edit: it's "more than 75%" of hot air producers

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago

yep! that’s the game they’re playing. I really don’t give a fuck about Proton’s relatively tiny number of enterprise whales, but they make Proton a shitload of money in the short term.

the depressing part is, historically, online services that remain uncompromisingly user-focused tend to stick around roughly forever, while the ones that chase short-term gains and compromise everything else almost always enshittify and fizzle out pretty quick.