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We the People, just as they've been doing. No one else gives a fuck about our best interests. Why ask for some assholes to get involved. We'd do just fine taking care of this one on our own.
So what then? You just want to read about it and be mad? Nothing else? No arrests, no trials, no accountability?
Arrests and trials rarely lead to accountability, particularly for law enforcement. If you want order then call the government. If you want justice then pick up your rifle. No agency gives a fuck about us.
Okay cool. I'll be over here and you can stand way over there.
You'll sing a different song when I'm reinforcing the picket line that matters. It's all good with neolibs until someone's willing to do something meaningful.
If your something meaningful is political violence then no thank you. I've seen that, it's nothing but tortured shop keepers and dead school children. No thank you.
Reinforcing a strike's picket line is "political violence"?
You need history. Lots of history.
You need guns. Not idiots with guns like the cult. Wise and disciplined people of principle who agree they'd rather not use them. We don't even need to fire a round. Call the bluff: "Kill us, then."
They won't. The people will come when we call. Or, it'll end like Les Mis. Either way it'll be done with dignity.
There was nothing dignified about Les mis. Didn't you get that message? Did you watch the whole thing? The kids dying for nothing? Or did you stop at the marching song?
You don't need a rifle on the picket line for a strike. This isn't the 1800's.
For fuck's sake those of us who have seen what you're calling for are trying to tell you it will not end the way you think it does. It will however obliterate the soul of the country and cause needless death and suffering. Just because you couldn't put your ego away for two fucking seconds and talk to each other.
Watch? I read it.
For nothing? Ask the French.
Don't need guns? Never been beaten by a cop, huh?
Then you did miss the point entirely. And the French got mass murder, 26 years of war, and then the return of the Ancien Regime. To be clear they did not just guillotine nobles or rich people. They were killing any dissidents so fast they had to chain them to barges and sink the barges, every day. It's not called the Reign of Terror because they were upstanding and moral. They killed political rivals inside the revolution at a rate that makes Stalin blush.
And cops, really? Like I said. Stand over there. Way over there.
I hope the threat of proletariat violence prevails as it usually does in history. Revolution is always a bloody mess.
I didn't miss the point. I choose non-violent change over a bloody mess. Where we seem to differ is that, as a last resort, I choose a bloody mess over the status quo.
The system has had centuries to right its wrongs. Most of us have no hope of a life of dignity. We're already dead. We'll set the timetable for our freedom. Or, we won't. Things will go on as they are. And, the next generation will shoot their shot.
I choose to believe now is our time.
And yes, beaten by a cop. Happens all the time. Some of them even make the news.