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'Disturbing' recordings from inside child-predator sting shows police, MAGA operatives ignoring laws
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I hate people who make a big show of being "outraged" over child abuse as a way to cover for their own repugnant, violent beliefs and behaviors.
It's the same way some prisoner who murdered an entire family will beat or kill pedophiles in prison because he thinks he somehow redeems him on some level by having a "code". In reality he's still a massive piece of shit.
It's deeply self-serving exploitation of a very serious issue.
For those who didn’t read the article, take note that one of the women involved ran for office as a Republican (obviously) and has been indicted for child abuse
But it’s also very much like how homophobes watch gay porn. These people are deeply religious, and that fruit comes from the same tree that gives us the virulent homophobes talking about how “everyone has gay thoughts and it’s our duty as soldiers of Christ to ignore them because it’s the demons.” They think everyone else is just acting on the same impulses they have, and this is just them being weak to “demon influence.”
These people are dangerous for kids just like they’re dangerous for everyone else.
It is in human nature that most people prefer not to be demonised by their abhorrent character/morals. One way to 'break free' or cover them up, is to demonise another minority. Of course, there is a lot of examples from extreme to light.
In context with your post, that minority does seem to be the most ostracised within the majority (even the non-offending) - to the situation that harassment and 'murder?' By most communities is tolerated.
The situation can be observed everywhere, online and offline; and one point can be ruled out in some cases "murder is justified if the person was a pedophile (non-offending & offending)".
This is one of the most extreme cases of improving your character at the cost of others. Harassment will remain harassment no matter what.
It's not just about rehabilitating your own character. Most animals on this planet have a deep seated need to protect the young of their own species. Even to the point of adopting the young from other species sometimes. Pedophiles violate that protective instinct. That's why it's so hard to treat them fairly in the justice system. Where we can look at some one accused of an armed robbery and ask ourselves if the evidence meets the burden; we are already working backwards from trying not to kill an accused pedophile in a courtroom.
It's the conservative way
There's a little more to prisoners beating up pedophiles. Many of them are themselves victims of child abuse. It's revenge.
Either way it's intellectually dishonest, hypocritical and inherently anti-justice.
If I get robbed by someone, and then later go to prison and find out some random prisoner is a thief, I'm not morally entitled to attack that person (who is already serving their time).
Prison justice is 100% bullshit.
No, they don't care if you were a thief outside. They care if you're a thief inside. They're not doing it just because of a code, they're defending the tiny amount of property they're allowed to have. We also wouldn't even blink if a homeowner beat up a thief in their house, so this is a bit hypocritical.
I'm not talking about if someone steals from you in prison (not that it's justifiable to be violent because someone stole something from you in prison anyway).
The analogy here is getting robbed at some point and then beating up some other entirely random thief who never robbed you (who's already getting punished for their crime in prison). When a pedophile is put in prison, there are no children for them to victimize, they are being punished for the crime they committed. They are not trying to rape the adult prisoners, so those prisoners can't claim they were victimized by that person.
Prisoners are not fit to administer justice, they are there to serve for their own crimes and moral failings, not play at being judge and jury for fellow criminals.
Dude, most of the people in prison are there for drugs and robbery. That's not even feasible. I don't know where you heard that's a thing, but it isn't.
What's not feasible? Not violently assaulting other prisoners?
It would be infeasible for the prison justice code to include thievery done outside prison. Your example is ridiculous and meant to minimize the impact sexual predators have on people's lives.
What are you talking about? Why is this so difficult for you to understand? If Joe steals from you, that doesn't give you a moral right to take it out on Bill because Bill also stole from someone before.
Likewise, if you were sexually abused by Joe, you don't have a moral right to take it out on Bill because he sexually abused someone. Especially when Bill is already serving prison time for his crime.
I don't know how I can make it any simpler for you.
No. It's not, and you know it's not. It's too illustrate how revenge is not transferrable and is mot an acceptable form of justice. The pedophiles that are attacked in prison are already recieving their punishment as handed down by the justice system by being in prison. The prisoners are not agents of our justice system, they are fucking criminals who are in prison for breaking the law. They don't get the right to hurt anyone
What you're advocating is that everyone is entitled to administer whatever extrajudicial punishment they want because it makes them feel good.
Prisoners do not have a legal or moral right to administer their own justice, regardless of whether or not they were victims of some crime in the past.
There you again. Equating sexual predation to taking a bag of chocolates.
No one is equating anything. But I think you understand this, you're just being dishonest.
Answer me this: If a murderer is tried and goes to prison, do any of the prisoners (or guards for that matter) have a moral right to kill him if they feel like it?
Murder is a really bad crime, right? It's certainly not stealing a bag of chocolates. If someone murdered my friend, does that give me a right to kill any murderer in prison I want to?
Depends, did they murder a child?
Because morally speaking, there are absolutely moral frameworks that would say yes.
Ok, so you literally just don't believe in a justice system based on impartiality and laws. Just whatever arbitrarily feels right to someone at the time based on whatever line they draw for themselves.
That's all I needed to know. What a completely incoherent way to run a society. Good bye.
Ah yes I'm clearly an anarchist because I referenced the existence of multiple moral frameworks.