With JD Vance and all the fake populism, and now this. I don't see any other path than the fascist one. Might be best to start looking at options to flee this hellhole.

UPDATE: They now have on a member of the Steamfitters union who is a "lifelong Democrat"... Yeah it's pretty much over

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[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm all for resisting fascism. The question is to what end, what exactly does delegitimizing the center right democratic party's opposition accomplish when they have a demonstrated willingness to target and sacrifice marginal groups in the pursuit of compromise with the fascists? Labour just won an astonishing victory in the UK. Unforced by opposition they are going after trans people, trans people who presumably helped give them that historic win.

By all means we should stop fascism where we can. But I'm not convinced doing it in this context, primarily as a messaging and PR win that will, let's be honest, only benefit Democrats, really moves the ball.

Or maybe I'm just in a bad mood. Feels ominous here lately.

[–] TemutheeChallahmet@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While the Democrats deserve no help, this original post is about how we should resign ourselves to fascism because the Teamsters are at the RNC. Doesn't that imply that we at least prefer they not be there, even if it means being at the DNC? We should focus on moving the needle toward what we want. The Dems may stand to benefit and piggyback off us for power, but what other option is there really at the point. If we genuinely believed that Trump and fascism have won and the only option is mutual aid groups for when he is in power, Hexbear would be filled with posts on mutual aid groups building. But we clearly don't believe in that deep down yet or at least have some residual hope of something different, and we can work chasing that feeling.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're talking yourself into opportunism. It's a bad sign that Teamsters are at the RNC, but that doesn't mean we should be trying to get them to go to the DNC (and they are anyway, I think). We should be pulling them, and everyone else, towards communism, not just a slightly less barbaric neoliberalism.

[–] TemutheeChallahmet@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes but what do you believe pulling them entails

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agitating directly for the destruction of the imperialist, capitalist state.

[–] TemutheeChallahmet@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago