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The Democratic Socialists of America pulled its endorsement of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York this week, accusing the progressive congresswoman of being insufficiently supportive of the Palestinian cause and efforts to end the war in Gaza..

Her approach has increasingly strained her relationship with some of the left’s most strident critics of Israel. When she rallied last month in the Bronx with Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Jamaal Bowman, dozens of pro-Palestinian demonstrators angry over her endorsement of Mr. Biden chanted “You’re a fraud, A.O.C.”

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Do you understand what Trump has proposed for Ukraine? I ask that unironically, I know I'm pissy and short on this topic, but I'm genuinely asking here.

They also have Tanks, Planes, and working Hospitals. Does Palestine?

How many tanks and planes do you think will help the Palestinian cause at this junction?

Don't worry about the hospitals, Russia is working on that too

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Leave NATO and take the funding with us and undo Sanctions, is all I'm aware of. Which is a lot, but I can only stand even reading about him so much so I don't exactly search it out often.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Leave NATO and take the funding with us and undo Sanctions, is all I’m aware of.

That alone would be enough to ensure a Ukrainian genocide - Zelenskyy having openly said that they cannot win the war without American materiel - but Trump has also praised Putin as a 'genius' for invading Ukraine and proposed giving up Ukrainian land to Russia as part of a peace deal forced on Ukraine. How many more Buchas do we want, here? Man, I'm fucking tired of seeing videos of Ukrainian civilians maimed, shot, tortured, I'm tired of reading UN reports of widespread human rights abuses in the occupied territories and colonization by ethnic Russians, I'm tired of Russia outright bragging about how many children it has kidnapped from the occupied territories.

"Let's keep that going, without resistance, until Russia is satisfied" is a resolution even more ridiculous than the US position on Palestine, and the US position on Palestine is already pretty fucking ridiculous.

The types of genocide aren’t even the same, Russias kidnapping and Russifying, Israel is killing and clearing land. Seems tough to compare to me.

If you think Israel's ethnic cleansing goals and Russia's are fundamentally different, you haven't been paying attention, man. Whether they're hawking beachfront property in Mariupol or Gaza, whether they're selling that property to Russian oligarchs or Israeli oligarchs, whether their plan is to deport hundreds of thousands, at minimum, to satisfy their territorial desires in Gaza or the Donbass? It's the fucking same. Palestinian conventional resistance is just further collapsed than Ukraine's.