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I remember in English we learned about types of conflicts/plots like

  • man vs man
  • man vs self
  • man vs god
  • man vs society

Etc. what type of conflict was Freddie v. Jason?

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would say when two opposing personified forces clash it becomes a man vs man fight.

IMO Man to Man covers peer against peer as well as literal fights between two normal human beings.

Fights between particular vampires in the Castlevania series would also be considered man to man even if they are very specifically not human, they are still people with thought process and human level decision making ability, so man vs man conflict still applies.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree with this assessment. Any 2 supernatural beings against each other is essentially man vs man. Them fighting involves agency, otherwise it'd be too boring to make a story about.

If we had 2 reanimated skeltons swordfighting, it would be cool for a couple minutes, but they can't talk, they can't plot and scheme, and they'd just keep on fighting with no purpose or end. Not a great story.

I don't know the origins of the Castlevania vampires, a quick look shows many origins, but the Vampire Chronicles vampires still seem very much man vs man. IIRC, they basically are just regular people essentially possessed by part of an original Egyptian demon. When the demon part of them is killed, that's why they just die. So for plot purposes, they're just guys with a chronic illness. They still retain all the characteristics and associated drama of the people they were when they were alive.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was talking more about the Netflix series, both the original and Nocturne feature very supernatural beings who nevertheless have the agency that is key in calling either party to the fight a person for the sake of man vs X

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I do need to check those out at some point. I've heard a lot of good comments about them.

With full control of their will, I agree it's definitely considered man vs man in a literary sense like this.