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Interesting history and analysis of SMTP's history. How can we prevent fedi and other open protocols from suffering the same fates?

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But most people don't pay for software, especially if there are "free" and legal alternatives.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you mean with that or how it relates to what I said, could you elaborate?

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As I understood you said that we should make email paid to stop spammers.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nono, I'm saying it costs to spam because spammers have to keep buying new domains as their previous domains get blocked or defederated.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why don't they use existing domains? I don't think 100% of them require a phone number. And didn't know it's possible to defederate an email provider.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, my point is that if spammers were to spam on the fediverse, they'd need to buy new domains constantly as their previous domains are defederated, I'm not talking about email.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you're offering a system that requires the instance/provider admins to manually federate with others instead of the federation being enabled by default?

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're misunderstanding me again. Please try reading what I said again.

I'm not suggesting allowlist federation, though that is another tactic that could be used. I'm just saying that a spammer on the fediverse would be quickly defederated and would have to buy a new domain to keep spamming, which would probably be too expensive to justify.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, mister/miss, I read your comments again and I admit I did completely misunderstand you. I'm sorry for that and I'm extremely grateful you chose to explain your point in a friendly manner instead of starting a drama or acting in a toxic manner.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're welcome m8, have a nice day

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

You too, mister/miss

[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

And didn’t know it’s possible to defederate an email provider.

It absolutely is, your mail provider "de-federates" aka blocks mail from plenty of other e-mail providers.