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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

By that hyper-simplistic "logic" people shouldn't be forced into prison if they murder someone.

Clearly some kinds of forcing in some situations are "good", and if some are good but other not, that means the real discussion is all about "when is forcing right and when is it not?" something that childlike "logic" of yours doesn't even begin to address.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Forcing to defend the lives of others, is very different from forcibly taking what belongs to others

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The meme is right, the claim of belonging is complete bullshit. Your toothbrush and your home belong to you, a business involving multiple people belongs to everyone involved. The idea that it doesn't is narcissism and evil.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 4 months ago

It rightfully belongs to the workers. The firm is basically a vehicle for appropriating the positive and negative product of production. The just basis of property is getting the positive and negative fruits of your labor (i.e. the labor theory of property). In a capitalist employer-employee relationship, the employer gets solely holds the whole product while workers are denied their claim to it despite it being a result of their labor.

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