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Nato members have pledged their support for an "irreversible path" to future membership for Ukraine, as well as more aid.

While a formal timeline for it to join the military alliance was not agreed at a summit in Washington DC, the military alliance's 32 members said they had "unwavering" support for Ukraine's war effort.

Nato has also announced further integration with Ukraine's military and members have committed €40bn ($43.3bn, £33.7bn) in aid in the next year, including F-16 fighter jets and air defence support.

The bloc's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said: "Support to Ukraine is not charity - it is in our own security interest."

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[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children)

Starting to notice a lot of Tankies jumping to .world because they let .ml slide enough that enough of us ban .ml users on sight

edit: Site to Sight.

[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago (8 children)

This sentiment makes me sad.

I chose .ml because it was smaller than .world (and that seemed to be the point of federation) but was also generic (my interests are very varied) and had great uptime, and didn't de-federate or had been de-federated by many instances. Now people say stuff like this and I feel the need to change instances because I don't want people to tar me with that brush (and I have been accused directly multiple times just because of my instances) but I feel conflicted because the whole point of this while thing was that we could be on any instance we liked and it shouldn't impact our "social standing". I'm disappointed in people that they can't judge a person by the content of their character rather than the instance they are on. And alas - I feel it's only a matter of time before I'm forced to change instance because of other people's prejudice.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (10 children)

judge a person by the content of their character

forced to change instance because of other people's prejudice.

Sorry if I'm getting the wrong impression here, but the moderators with whom you choose to associate is pretty easy to change and not a part of who you are.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Communities on .ml are moderated in a way that pisses people off, especially in regard to politics.

People that judge someone with an .ml name on an different instance and a different community are acting like clowns. They're just being lazy and/or prejudicial.

[–] FiskFisk33@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Eh, they use .ml to mean marxist-leninist. I have an inkling feeling you too would be wary if you saw a comment by "user@lemmy.nazi".

[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I was unaware of that when I posted this.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I feel conflicted because the whole point of this while thing was that we could be on any instance we liked and it shouldn't impact our "social standing".

I don't think that was ever the point of federation, especially with defederation as an option, specifically to deal with instances that don't follow generally accepted morays.

It sucks that you're going to have to abandon the instance you initially picked, but it happens to the best of us. I picked kbin initially, and abandoned that after a while due to the increasing toxicity, and the increasingly large lack of features or development by the one person doing it.

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[–] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Never knew this was a thing. I just choose a random instance when I joined Lemmy.

Got banned recently for being critical about "Apple & China relationship" and sourced a few articles in privacy channel or whatever its called.

I didn't know why I was banned because according to their rules and didn't break any rules, so I messaged a few mods for a response.

[–] SolNine@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Please don't ban me... I joined .ml because it was privacy, security and FOSS focused! I had no idea about the ancillary political focus now associated with it.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

1: I'm just a user, if its just me blocking you, it's likely not going to impact your lemmy experience much

2: While the .ml tag means I instantly am wary/distrust you, the autoblock happens when you try and justify anything Russia and China has done.

Maybe Ukraine deserved to be invaded? Block

Countries surrounding Russia lining up to join Nato is a sign of expanding US Hegemony? Block

Isreali citizens deserved to be gunned down and r***** because they are settlers and not human? You better believe thats an autoblock

(China's not currently on this example list because they havent done anything in the last few months. I guess you could replace Ukraine for Taiwan in the first example)

(But really, if you are still in .ml and not a Tankie, you should move instances, that instance is too far gone for it to recover)

edit: And before one of you fucknuts "WHATABOUT GAZA" 's me, yeah FUCK the GOVERNMENT of Isreal for what they are doing to Gaza currently, two warcrimes dont make a right

[–] SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The mind of the tankie cannot comprehend such logical consistency

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[–] FiskFisk33@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah, its a large instance, and you need some inside knowledge to know about the political leanings.

Fun fact, they chose .ml to abbreviate marxist-leninist

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I chose whatever I am because it was the first one I saw when I made the jump

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I’m trying, but I don’t understand what this has to do with Ukraine NATO membership.

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