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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 149 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Look, fuck Alex Jones, but the title of the Twitter Space was "Will the Deep State Assassinate Biden If He Refuses To Leave?"

Which is some crazy conspiratorial nonsense, but it is pretty far from a call to assassinate Biden. It does technically have the words "assassinate Biden" in it, so the headline is correct on a literal level, but this is some serious click bait...

You could just as easily say "Rawstory posts article with 'Assassinate Biden' in the title", and be just as correct.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

More hack journalism, they don't even mention the actual title until the very end of the article. I'm pissed I even clicked on that garbage.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You make a good point, but I still think that this is more stochastic terrorism from the right. They’re putting the notion of assassinating the president out there into the weak minds of their listeners, who will take that information and do with it what they will. It’s so indirect that Jones and co have plausible deniability.

Note how they don’t ask if the derp state will assassinate Trump, even though he’s supposed to be its enemy.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They’re putting the notion of assassinating the president out there into the weak minds of their listeners

While I don't think you're wrong, AJ has been talking about the president being assassinated for more than a decade. He was sure Trump was going to be assassinated almost constantly during his administration (poisoned cokes and hamberders were popular options).

People should stop giving that coked out drunkard any publicity, that's literally all he wants. Well, that and to sell you all kinds of ~~InfoWars~~ Dr Jones Naturals supplements THAT ARE IN NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH INFOWARS, even though his dad owns it and sells all the same products and his mom is talking to him about his dad retiring.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

People should stop giving that coked out drunkard any publicity, that's literally all he wants.

Well, someone was apparently awake during wonk class. Spot on comrade.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

He's implying that Biden's assassination would be good for the left, so it doesn't seem like that would motivate his base.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

They’re putting the notion of assassinating the president out there into the weak minds of their listeners, who will take that information and do with it what they will.

I do understand they can do multiple things at once even if they can barely walk and chew gum, and I would like if they were wiped from the face of the earth, but I would much rather that they turn their attention towards the president, instead of putting their attention on trans people or whatever racial minority comes up week by week to rile up the base. The president has a large amount of protection on him at all times, the chances that any right wing nutjob can target him effectively strike me as shockingly low, and if they did target him, then probably you'd see something actually happen to prosecute them. Basically nobody else has that same level of protection.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you're always giving people who don't play fair, the benefits of the doubt, you're going to end up with fascism.

Never help vipers survive, they'll only end up stinging you.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If I don't give people the benefit of a doubt, then I am the one playing unfairly.

Alex Jones may be a liar, but I'm not.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes you are, you're pretending the title doesn't contain the words "assassinate Biden", when it clearly does. Now you're pretending this was ever about truth and lies, when it never was.

It's about perception, conveying the quite accurate perception that Alex Jones aids a politically unhinged and destabilizing political atmosphere.

He should be painted as such, instead you're out here pretending like he's a good honest man, that is being lied about.

You're lending your honesty and labour, to a side of politics unworthy of the honour.

You have fallen into the trap of telling the Nazis there are Jews in the basement, thinking it will prove that you're a good person, when it in fact just makes you culpable for the success of fascists.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Hey, this is Alex Jones, nuance and honestly aren't allowed /s

[–] theluckyone@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

"Would no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"