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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

consenting exploitation is still exploitation

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/exploit

Scroll down to verbs. When you're talking about someone else, there's an implication of unfairness. This is why vegans don't eat animals or use animal products. If the animals could consent, there would be nothing wrong with it.

I reiterate: it would not be unfair for Astarion or Lenore to drain several pints of blood from my neck

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The definition from the vegan society doesn't mention unfairness at all. it prohibits exploitation carte blanche

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And exploitation, when talking about living things, implies unfairness and nonconsent

You realize the word becomes entirely useless if we use your definition, yeah? Virtually every interaction between living things becomes exploitation under your silly definition. It's not very useful. I'll stick with the more widely used definition, wherein it would be exploitation for Nosferatu to suck my blood, but not Mavis Dracula or her dad

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

Virtually every interaction between living things becomes exploitation under your silly definition.

yea. it is. but the vegan society's definition doesn't prohibit exploiting living things: it prohibits exploiting animals.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

the word becomes entirely useless if we use your definition, yeah?

i disagree. i think it draws sharp contrasts that help us understand both the standard and whether we are meeting it.