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[–] juergen@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It may also be a little late to introduce a new candidate, unless they have great name recognition. Betcha Bernie 2.0 would mobilize a goodly number of people, while centrists would hold their noses, and just vote for Not Trump.

Bernie isn't running, and Biden isn't quitting, so we take what we can get. At this point, I would literally vote for a loofah if it ran against Trump.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Someone on lemmy said this Sunday that France leftist successfully formed a global left party in 4 weeks, surely Democrats could find a candidate in 4 months.

I want to see AOC as your president.

[–] juergen@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 months ago

Turns out she will actually be old enough to become president even before election day. And she certainly has the name recognition. Again, Biden is not likely to step down - and at this point, I would vote for an empty tube of toothpaste over Trump.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The French situation is very different and the election was a little more complicated than that. They (left and center parties)didn't form a global left party, but only allegedly collaborated on not running against each other in some areas.

This is not an option in the USA presidential election where there only are two candidates to begin with. Introducing a third candidate would only split the votes.

It would be nice to see AOC run eventually, but it wouldn't be a good idea right now. Hopefully both Trump and Biden will be to old next time, so both parties need to find younger candidates.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh I was not talking about left + Macron center (ensemble) but only the left.

The left parties did form a global one, le Nouveau Front Populaire, and I was just referring to that. The left was in shambles between LFI, PS, Les verts etc, a bit of all for themselves. LFI taking the most seats from what was historically le PS (former president Hollande party).

But after announcing the dissolution they managed to be friends again in a very short time. That what was said by that lemmy user.

Macron center was not included and will not be. Stepping down when 3rd to avoid that or that party is nothing new for us, more like a "gentleman agreement" except that this time it was more important than last times.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it was a great idea to force a stale despite the forthcoming troubles of setting a government. In some ways it is similar to the American election by turning it into a vote for or against right wing extremism regardless of who is representing the left side, but I can't see the American democrats having any similar options available.

On the other hand it's kind of sad having to force an election to be limited to a two choice vote. Block politics or single issue politics are usually not good for democracy. Unfortunately it's happening everywhere. People are turning more extreme in both directions based on their Facebook feed..

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ah the facebook feeds… I am considering using the fediverse left beard Linux dudes to make an army of leftist devs/sys admins etc.

Use the same tools as the extreme right (like boting) to flood Facebook, Twitter etc with leftist views and positives stories.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At this point, I would literally vote for a loofah if it ran against Trump.

Then we don't need name recognition. Any middle of the road Democrat will do.

[–] juergen@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

The name recognition is just in case other voters are pickier / more discerning. If it's someone super cool, they may even pull in people who were not going to vote. Yes, I would literally vote for a rusty bottle cap over Trump, but others may have different requirements.