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[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Grant isn't referring to "ruh ruh 'Murica" as patriotism, he's talking about appreciation of what we have. Different political alignments just appreciate different things; the left, liberty, and the right, supremacy of rich, white males.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 11 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, I get that. But in 2024, when you hear the word "patriot" who do you think of?

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We should not allow terms like this to be coopted. It's a pretty standard tactic: dilute the language of your opposition so it becomes harder for them to communicate effectively with an audience. Trying to constantly change your position's vocabulary is a losing strategy as the intended audience can't keep up. Instead, we must take back the words that are important and, for example, clearly state that it is the oppressor who is unpatriotic.

A flag doesn't make you a patriot. Loving guns and blind faith to Constitution doesn't make you a patriot. It is care for your fellow American, defending the weak and disenfranchised, and protecting the ideals of self-determination and opportunity that make someone a true patriot

[–] classic@fedia.io 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I really appreciate this take. In the pursuit of better language, some groups also hamper their own ability to communicate - not a slam against the attempt, but between that and the other side diluting the group's words, it's an uphill fight

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

not a slam against the attempt, but between that and the other side diluting the group's words, it's an uphill fight

And they are absolutely doing it on purpose. Stripping meaning from words benefits them, because their side doesn't care about truth, or facts, or policies. As long as they can make the Other suffer, their base will scream whatever the word of the day is, and every time they steal a word, it makes matching their organization a little bit harder

Stripping meaning from words benefits them, because their side doesn’t care about truth, or facts, or policies.

"Insurrection" and "impeachment" have both been getting this treatment lately.

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Just like National Socialist party wasn’t socialist, or the Democratic People’s Replubic of Korea isn’ta democracy, the patriotic republicans aren’t patriotic

[–] just_ducky_in_NH@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

So, the ignorant people don’t understand what patriotism is. It supports Grant’s thesis.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 10 points 5 months ago

Definitely not the Russian shills that are going at our democracy with a weed whacker

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Benjamin Martin, but not the actor that portrayed him

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

... Grant wasn't writing in 2024.