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[–] notsure@fedia.io 61 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Much like Jesus would not recognise his "followers", Cap would not recognise the "america" he was fighting for...

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Considering he went to war in the 40s, I think he would recognize this America. For all of our flaws, we're doing better now than we were then.

Like he said - he fought not because America is great, but because it is fragile. America is not some shining precious jewel, it's a deeply flawed creature - the only thing that marks it as worth saving is the ideal that all people are equal. The further we get from that, the closer we come to being nothing more than trash and a rag.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 30 points 5 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiorello_La_Guardia

New York City in the 1930s was full of Socialists and Communists.

Much of the 1950s Red Scare was set up to punish the 'premature anti-fascists' who a young Steve Rogers would have listened to.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago

But in that fragility, he understood that we were only as strong as our weakest link

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree with your statements on ideals, but I do not think America was on the precipice of becoming a fascist dictatorship in the 40s.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

You might be surprised, there were a lot of pro nazi Americans. The attack on Pearl Harbor changed what might have been a quiet agreement with the new reich