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[–] null@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (53 children)

But have you considered that he didn't change military policy on Isreal?

That should be the one and only issue you base your vote on, according to a scary amount of people around here.

Edit: See? Here they are, saying Trump and Biden are the same. It's kinda wild to watch.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

Different people have different priorities. I live in eastern EU. The idea of the US dropping all support for Ukraine is pretty damn scary to me. I obviously can't vote in the US election, but I will happily support Biden from across the pond due to that one issue.

To a Palestinian? Yeah, I understand they don't really care about anything outside the direct issues affecting their people so they'd be anti-Biden.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I get why they don't like Biden. But Trump has openly said that Israel should escalate the attacks and finish off the Palestinians.

Biden is ignoring genocide. Trump is actively encouraging it.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I live in Norway and feel the same way. However I will point out that trump is pro Israel and doesn't like Muslims. He even wanted to move the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He did move the embassy to Jerusalem. It probably helped escalate the tensions that led to the attack and then war.

It makes me skeptical that much of the anti-Biden rhetoric around Israel/Palestine is either IDF/Russian/Iranian trolls or just terminally online edgelords who haven’t got a clue about the realities of a US election. Namely that letting Biden lose will be much worse for everyone, Palestinians especially.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -2 points 4 months ago

The idea of the US dropping all support for Ukraine is pretty damn scary to me.

Only it seems that support for Ukraine is slowly drying out anyway. So whether electing Biden will help that is questionable.

One can't blame them for not trusting anything signed by Russia, though. But maybe they should have conceded on some of the occupied territories, when Russia wasn't demanding anything they didn't hold, which is as close to "begging for peace" as you can expect from an adversary 3 times stronger.

Dunno, I think no matter what the outcome of that election, for Ukraine it'd be best to sign some treaty by September. Same for Armenia, only unless somebody forces Aliyev, it may not get such an opportunity.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

He didn't change policies on many other things too.

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