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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They’re so old…

Term limits aren’t the solution…

What?

They consolidate power due to the time they spend in office. It’s incredibly hard to vote out an incumbent. They get the campaign funds because they kiss the right asses of the rich and corporate classes, and that is not serving the citizens.

The solution is term limits, and banning them from working as a lobbyist or whatever.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They get the campaign funds because they kiss the right asses of the rich and corporate classes, and that is not serving the citizens.

That just sounds like a campaign finance problem to me. Term limits are inherently anti-democratic imo so I'd really rather avoid those, but campaign finance reform sounds wonderful.

and banning them from working as a lobbyist or whatever.

This also sounds like a great idea

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

So you’re okay with care politicians who no longer reflect society at large writing laws and consolidating power?

Biden, just for an example, was in congress longer than I’ve been alive. He’s been a leader in the DNC for at least half that.

When I say “Biden is part of why we’re in this mess”…. This is exactly what I’m talking about.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

A great deal of our system of government is undemocratic. In particular, the difficulty of getting incumbents out of office is undemocratic, and term limits directly address that problem. Even if they're undemocratic in a vacuum, they enhance democracy in practice.

[–] snowsuit2654@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Is banning them from lobbying sufficient?

What if someone retired from politics and then works for Shell and pays for a free weekend getaway to the Bahamas for a Congress member? Or for their "friend"?

Sounds like we need strict laws around what is lobbying

[–] hypnoton -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ban them from accepting straw donations, ban CPACs, ban PACs, ban revolving doors, ban stock ownership, enforce the emoluments clause, ban all the foreign money from the USA politics, and institute a campaign finance reform.