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[–] trompete@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I did not have a first communion because my parents decided Catholic rituals are stupid, which means I missed out on quite a lot of cash gifts from relatives I should have gotten. I'm still bitter about it. Where's my fucking money grandma!?

So I'm not skipping my first vote, no matter how stupid liberal rituals are.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Ya I bought an NES with my first communion money. You missed out.

However the adult therapy bills ran me well into the many thousands of dollars.

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don’t remember getting any cash at my First Communion.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah I never got any money, I didn’t even know that was a thing. I did however fall asleep holding a lit candle and almost caught fire lmfao.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, but why use that vote for biden? It's your first, you want to waste it on a corpse?

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

a genocidal corpse!

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If it's just ritual then isn't it categorically a tacit endorsement and normalization of genocide

If the beginning of any statement implies or begins with "Yes Joe Biden committed genocide.....BUT" then doesn't that explicitly define genocide as conditional and open to negotiation?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

isn’t it categorically a tacit endorsement and normalization of genocide

You are presenting this as an either/or choice, and completely ignoring the alternative if we don't support Biden. And abstention is a vote for Trump. So let me remind you of a few things about Trump that you are overlooking:

--While in office, Trump's policy on Israel and Palestine was to do whatever Netanyahu asked. The joke of a "peace deal" brokered by Kushner was a naked attempt to impose an Israeli diktat on the Palestinians. So any assumption that Trump would restrain Israel in any way, even as much as Biden's weak attempts, is laughable.

--Trump committed an act of war, aligned with Israeli strategic goals, when he assassinated Iranial General Soleimani, who was a member of the faction within the Iranian government most favorable to negotiation with the West. Fortunately, the Iranians didn't take the bait.

--Trump enthusiastically supported the Saudi genocidal war against the Yemenis, and vastly increased weapons sales to that murdering psychopath MBS, who was also responsible for starting the aggression against Yemen.

--Trump surrendered in Afghanistan and cravenly abandoned the Afghans who had supported the West's campaign against the Taliban, leading to massacres within the country and a refugee crisis. He released all Taliban prisoners, destroying what little bargaining power the US still had, and cynically set the date of final withdrawal to occur after Biden got into office, then screeched about how it was all Biden's fault that there was shit in the shit sandwich that Trump had made.

--During the Covid epidemic, Trump deliberately withheld needed supplies and vaccines to some states, with intent to cause a higher death toll in states that hadn't supported him in the 2016 election. The withholding of equipment was also straight-up extortion. Between the incompetence of the response, the malice of the attempted bio-warfare against American people, and the corruption, it has been estimated that half a million American deaths from Covid can be attributed to Trump. How's that for genocide?

--The border family separation policy as Trump implemented it was another act of genocide according to international law.

And now let's look at what your golden boy will do next.

--He will sell out the Ukrainians just as shamelessly as he sold out the Afghans. That will lead to a bloodbath in Ukraine and a refugee crisis in Europe on a scale unseen since WW2. There is even a chance that Trump will take Russia's side in its imperialist aggression, and in subsequent attacks on other smaller countries that got the Russian boot off their necks when the Warsaw Pact and USSR collapsed. He has made excuses for Putin during the campaign, and his servility to the Russians has been one of the few consistent patterns in his otherwise erratic life.

So here's a scorecard:

Palestine: Neither good, Trump worse. Everything else: Trump far worse.

And, as I said, a low turnout favors Trump. So the imperfect but far less morally odious choice is to vote for Biden. There's a slim chance Biden will eventually take even-handed action on Israel/Palestine. There is no chance that Trump will ever take any position based on morality or human decency, since those concepts are unknown to him.

[–] Wisp@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don’t understand, you’re getting payed to vote?

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

You're not? George Soros sends me 1000$ per vote. Have you contacted your local antifa super soldier?