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[–] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You could start with the systemic problems you mentioned. Go ahead

[–] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

9 dead people don't speak for themselves in your mind, I guess. Why are you on this community?

I'd love to go through it with you, step by step, using crayons and simple wording if I must, but alas! Not one of the 19 articles I looked at provided an exact location or pictures clear enough to figure that out.

My logic here is very simple: If a car can hit pedestrians, then the infrastructure is bad. 9 people died to prove this point and you're acting as if this is a freak accident that happens once in a decade. It doesn't, people die all the time because of inattentive drivers or faulty vehicles. Bollards save lives.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Looking at the second photo in the article it looks like it bent the bollards over, which I would guess mightve launched the car into the air...

I think the bigger systemic problem would be the 8 lane roads in the area which enabled enough space for the car to get up enough speed to do that sort of damage to a bollard: https://maps.app.goo.gl/aHDmVJMPt3LKvAeL9?g_st=ac

Another systematic problem is the enbiggening of vehicles in the name of occupants saftey(larger pillars for better rollover protection, and extra passenger cabin rigidity, which also harms visibility for the driver due to wider pillars)

[–] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it looks like it bent the bollards over,

So they weren't bollards, they were decoration.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ah yeah true, they were railings not bollards, but they look like they were solid steel, so I don't think it's fair to just call them "decoration".

[–] chocoladisco@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As someone working in the field of bollards: If they arent rated to stop a hostile vehicle, they are just decoration.