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[–] Dagrothus@reddthat.com -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So a surgeon doesnt earn their wealth off their own labor & value? Hard disagree, even accounting for their assistants that couldnt do what they do. The surgeon provides some amount of value, their staff makes them more efficient, so theres an equilibrium where theyre being fairly compensated. The hospital owners and investors are the leeches.

[–] carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So a surgeon doesnt earn their wealth off their own labor & value?

Sure they do. The question that I answered was in regards to commerce/investing. (Rereading the question, it included also saving where highly skilled workers operating where there's a low supply comes to play - assuming that's why you mentioned surgeons)

The surgeon provides some amount of value, their staff makes them more efficient, so theres an equilibrium where theyre being fairly compensated. The hospital owners and investors are the leeches.

If the surgeon employs the their staff they're engaging in capitalism, but I'm assuming you meant that they are also an employee of the hospital in your example.

[–] Dagrothus@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah my main point being that the 1 million mark is a bit low for automatically declaring someone a capitalist taking advantage of others. Youre right that the majority do definitely have to at least invest to get there, though.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is a fundamental sticking point between people who believe in any form of capitalism and communism. If someone develops a method of creating a surplus of labor, under communism, they have no right to that surplus beyond the surplus they would get as a worker.

[–] Dagrothus@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

Keyword surplus. If a surgeon would bring in $1000 a day alone and an assistant brings this to $1200, if the assistant gets $200 then theres no skimming, a win-win. Like i said, in reality there ARE people skimming the surplus, but there are laborers that produce significant value on their own.