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[–] docAvid@midwest.social 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Is that an act of an insane person? It's apparently legal, now. Do you broadly think that using violence against tyranny is insane? Our founders committed their lives and fortunes to the violent overthrow of tyranny. It would be much easier, sitting in the oval office, with legal authority granted to him by the very people he would be targeting, to authorize the extrajudicial execution of a few traitors. Do you think that extrajudicial execution is insane? Then you'll have to admit that most presidents in the last few decades were insane, especially Obama. Is it only insane when the target is white people in power, rather than brown-skinned people overseas?

I'm not commenting, at this time, on whether it would be moral, or wise, but insane? I can't see how.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I think it would set a very low bar for all subsequent Presidents if Biden used the new power to assassinate members of SCOTUS or Congress. The repercussions would be horrific.

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not like trump is known to not stoop below any bar he sees. Holding the bar up won't do anything

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There will likely be more presidents than just Trump. Even if he manages to become dictator, he’s old and far from fit.

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago

The point being trump would set the bar very low anyways

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I was told if Trump wins this one it's the end of democracy. What other presidents?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

They’ll still be “presidents.” Putin is an “elected president.”

[–] throbbing_banjo@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

The bar doesn't exist anymore, that's what this ruling is all about.

[–] docAvid@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago

I get what you're saying, here. That's why I specifically disclaimed making any judgement about whether it would be moral, or wise. But consider the other side of that same coin: the court did this specifically to overthrow democracy and allow Trump, or any other president who will carry out Project-2025 to use this power to maintain an effective dictatorship. There's no other explanation for this ruling. Would using this absurd power once, now, to restore a court that is loyal to the Constitution and People of America, be worse than letting Trump get in, assassinate any and all opposition, and end democracy? Could we trust it to end there? Would Biden install justices that would immediately reverse the ruling and bring things back to normal, or just install his own loyalists? I dunno, it's complicated.

Ultimately, it's also all just theoretical, anyhow. I find it almost inconceivable that Biden would do this.