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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 93 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (69 children)

Between “Democrats say ‘Vote’” and “Democrats do nothing to fight back,” they didn’t vote in 2016.

This Supreme Court is a result of that inaction.

Congratulations on demonstrating how voter abstention hands the government to Republicans.

Let’s not do that any more.

[–] EchoCT@lemmy.ml 41 points 4 months ago (4 children)

We had 8 good years before that and didn't set up any protections.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

During the last year of that, Obama was denied the ability to nominate a Supreme Court Justice on an Election Year. Then, Trump got 2 nominees appointed to the SCOTUS, one of which was on an election year.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Denied as in dems were unable to or chose not to?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As in the Republican Senate decided they weren't going to vote on any nominations from Obama.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

As in republicans could veto the nomination?

Could dems veto the new justices?

Sorry im not American and am trying to understand. I thought dems could have but chose not too due to integrity.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Ahh okay. When the President wants to nominate a new federal judge the Senate has to approve them. At the time the other party controlled the Senate. The effect was to leave the Supreme Court with an even number of Judges for a while, making tie decisions possible. They also broke their own rule once they had the Senate and Presidency. So they aren't making arguments in good faith.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The Senate has to confirm the president's picks. The Republicans controlled the Senate during Obama's last years in office. So they just didn't confirm his pick. Their reasoning was that it was an election year. When Trump faced the same situation (supreme court vacancy in an election year), the Republicans still controlled the senate and confirmed his pick.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago

How to appoint SCOTUS judges:

  1. Vacancy on Court (usually means the old Judge died)

  2. Presidential Nomination

  3. Senate votes to confirm


How to remove judges:

  1. Impeachment hearings in congress

  2. Senate votes to remove Judge

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You had the first 2 years of Obama. Obama's thanks for the ACA was voters not showing up and losing the house of representatives for year 3 and 4. And again for year 5 and 6. And then both the house and Senate in years 7 and 8. So no you didn't have 8 years with Obama, you had 2 years with Obama because voters did not show up. Congress is what passes laws and has power. They even shut down the freaking government under Obama.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

With a heavily divided legislature that only just passed the ACA before it exploded.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Only Congress can increase the number of Justices on the Supreme Court. We had two years of congressional majority in the last twenty. They focused on healthcare.

How could they have possibly predicted that they’d need to expand and pack the Supreme Court to prevent the next President from becoming a dictator?

[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They focused on healthcare.

And they gave us Romneycare

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

And even that was a monumental task. One vote away in the Senate, and that one guy got rid of the single payer option for the cost of his vote. Joe Lieberman if you want to look him up, the guy who started no labels political party (without a platform).

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

4 years, or 3 because of Scott Brown. But we just had 2 years. And Obama had 1 year.

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