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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 186 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can the current king please decree that we’re a democracy?

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 141 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

He can do that by officially assassinating the conservative SC justices, nominating new ones, and then having armed marines inside the senate comittees to ensure they are confirmed immediately.

There's probably a few more steps, but this would get us back on track. He would have to be willing to give up his powers at a certain point, which means installing the legal apparatus (in the form of government officials) with the will to strip those powers.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 146 points 4 months ago

Justice: “Don’t kill me, it’s illegal!”

Assassin: “I’m on orders from the president.”

Justice: “Oh, well, go ahead then.”

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Ah yes, the classic play in which you acquire unchecked power, exercise it to get rid of all your political rivals, then somehow use it to restore democracy. Occurs once in an anime about giant robots and psychic powers, and never in history.

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Tankies gonna tank

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree no one is ever letting go of power unless they are explicitly required to do so.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree no one is ever letting go of power unless they are explicitly required to do so.

George Washington did that twice. But he was the anti-Trump.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

"Cincinnatus was an opponent of the rights of the plebeians (the common citizens) who fell into poverty because of his son Caeso Quinctius's violent opposition to their desire for a written code of equally enforced laws"

Hey, he had at least one thing in common with The Cheeto Man.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

The one thing we have going for us is that it'll be a race against mortality to accomplish these things. And I don't think his failson is likely to be installed as the next Great Leader. Usually the dictators start much younger.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Isn't it word to word exactly what Sulla did?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

King Juan Carlos of Spain.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The next steps would be ordering the justice department to prosecute him, going to court, and appealing all the way to the new Supreme Court so they can overturn the precedent. Which would require either moving very quickly or preventing the other side from taking power, one way or the other.

Of course, by then pandora's box is open. As long as someone is willing to follow those kinds of orders, nothing would prevent the next president from doing the same thing. It's a slippery slope not unlike the one that caused Rome to go from being a republic that viewed regicide as a fundamental virtue to an empire that would persecute groups for denying the divinity of the emperor.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 58 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Of course, by then pandora’s box is open. As long as someone is willing to follow those kinds of orders, nothing would prevent the next president from doing the same thing.

It would be a genius move for Biden to arrest Trump right now as a terrorist enemy combatant, but give hints that he's doing this because of the supreme court ruling. And then in order to be prosecuted, the Supreme Court would need to completely reverse this ruling and restore democracy. Even if Biden went to prison after a total reversal of the ruling, he would be regarded by history as a saviour of the country on par with Lincoln.

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I could've sworn Lemmy added a "upvote multiple times" feature, but I can't find it.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago

That'd be fine, but simplest move for Biden is to install Hunter as Veep, then have Hunter declare Joe the winner of the election next January. When Joe kicks the bucket a few months later, the presidency gets handed down from father to son as God intended.

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

What's most worrying is that this hasn't happened yet. Once Trump gets elected, it's all over, folks. Time to pack it in.