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[–] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 102 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It’s very hard for me to square that idea that trump is an existential threat who must be stopped by any means necessary, and the notion that Biden is allowed to do anything legally.

[–] Ishmael@hexbear.net 73 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Obama murdered a 16-year-old who wasn't even accused of a crime and got away with it, but I guess the rules are different when the victim is Muslim

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago

once again, us-foreign-policy

Death to America

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 54 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I tried to explain this to libs back in 2018ish. If Trump is a fascist, why would voting him out do anything? Ya'll are either being hyperbolic, or you're being cowards.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Trump is a fascist, but that is because everyone in the U.S. government follows the logic of fascism, because neoliberalism is just fascism without the campy outfits. He just not a systemic-ending fascist.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago

Neoliberalism is rainbow fascism

[–] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The issue is he’s an anti institutionalist corporate oligarch, which in a vacuum is neutral and par for the course, but in this case, one of the few things keeping America from completely coming apart at the seams are the institutions who want to make sure arsenic isn’t in kids’ toothpaste and shit.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So is your bog-standard Republican. All of Trump's initial appointees were bog-standard Republican, and the only got wiggy by the end after everything had been gutted(something btw that Biden hasn't actually done anything to fix in the interim).

The only thing that Trump is bad at is the kayfabe of DC politics.

[–] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s what P25 aims to fix.

Also there was a ton of brain drain. Competent people don’t want to come back knowing that they might just get fired / made miserable under the next R President, so it’s hard to even fix these institutional problems in 4 years

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Then it's never going to happen! If the Democrats aren't ready by now, they will never be ready. There is absolutely no way in this system to guarantee that power doesn't change hands between the parties. Especially after Bush v. Gore, and the latest Supreme Court mandates. The train only goes one way.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

anti-institutionalist

Is he? I mean, aesthetically and for his base, he appears that way, but he's a capitalist oligarch.

[–] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

They will dismantle the administrative state and replace it with a fully kleptocratic one, instead of the hybrid one we have on life support

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

i mean yeah, that's kinda my point

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 51 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If Biden gets Trump assassinated by the CIA will it be considered official business?

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

yeah, the decision says exercises of constitutional authority have immunity. they're /presumed/ to be official acts. so if assassinations are covered by the president, he's free to kill off his political enemies.

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

As commander in chief, ordering military objectives is a constitutionally declared duty of the president so it seems very clear to me as that's a conclusive constitutional duty. This line seems relevant: "[...] President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclu- sive constitutional authority"

[–] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why would they murder their biggest fan?

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the obvious rules based liberal solution to trump is fucking divest presidential powers, instead of giving even more expansive executive meow-tableflip

[–] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

Clearly if we don’t use power it’ll set a precedent of good behavior!