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"The whole vibe is so different" = political NIMBYism at its ugliest (i.ibb.co)

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[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Do people have to fight against power? Always. Can we construct a system that protects that fight and preserves it's gains in institutions populated by smart people dedicated to the welfare of all? Maybe, but it's a lot harder than throwing turds at each other, so I guess when things slip we should just give up and start pooping."

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The system fundamentally cannot provide equity, and we have no party in the US that is interested in providing this. Moreover, we bar so-called "radical" leftists including anarchists and communists from citizenship and even residency to ensure our unjust structures stay in place.

Appealing to civility in US politics has always been used as propaganda to protect a status quo that protects the interests of privileged classes at the expense of those they subjugate, to maintain subjugation and slavery. No one is going to burn this system down by being civil.

You're right though that we'll need to throw a lot more than shit to rid ourselves of the billionaires, police, and politicians.

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I appreciate your comment, and perhaps I just don't belong in this community, but I think the original tweet is suggesting that appealing to incivility is also useful, to the same people.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Well in that case I'll just inform the immigrants in cages and the Palestinians having their infants' heads blown off to remain civil. I'm sure that will convince a nation that still openly enslaves people of color and routinely uses military force against civilians while colonizing the earth to see the error of its ways. As long as we're good little slaves it's better that way, right? We totally got all our meager labor laws and civil rights laws from just sitting calmly, and not at all by being shot, bombed, and firehosed while rising up against this racist nation and forcing them to grant them to us, right? /s

Read rules 2 and 4 carefully, please. That should help you determine if you feel welcome here.