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[–] Smk@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This is great. The pay sucks though. The reason why is that the economy does not care about the children. We got immigration. Why the fuck would the economy lose money on kindergarten ? Or on family in general ? It's a trend that keeps going on. Less and less children. Our places are less and less for families.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It isn’t just that. Any job seen as a ‘woman’s job’ is going to pay less. And it isn’t just for the ‘traditional’ women’s jobs, like grade school teacher or secretary. If women enter a field in significant numbers, then wages overall will fall. See veterinary work for one example.

Pisses me the fuck off.

[–] Smk@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Women are still seen like a child trying to help. It's ridiculous. I don't think it's like that all the time, but education does seem like it. It does feel like taking care of children is not a real job because "anyone can do it" (they can't).

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah the right wing goal is to privatize education to further ensure that the rich are the only ones that can control the narrative and get ahead. It’s wild to watch a country go from championing public education to half of the nation vilifying it for corporate and wealthy interests

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's an interesting and somewhat sad point. Economically immigration is probably cheaper for society than raising domestic children properly.

Hypothetically we can scoop the cream from the top of other countries and let them bear the expense of early childhood education, and come out better off than doing it ourselves.

[–] Smk@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I don't know if what I'm implying is true, just a thought I had. It feels sad that we should no longer have families because of money. It really feels counterintuitive. I never saw any reports or analysis comparing children versus immigration, probably because it's a way too complex question.

I feel like having children has more benefit than entirely relying on immigration.