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Apple has deployed a system called Private Access Tokens that allows web servers to verify if a device is legitimate before granting access. This works by having the browser request a signed token from Apple proving the device is approved. While this currently has limited impact due to Safari's market share, there are concerns that attestation systems restrict competition, user control, and innovation by only approving certain devices and software. Attestation could lead to approved providers tightening rules over time, blocking modified operating systems and browsers. While proponents argue for holdbacks to limit blocking, business pressures may make that infeasible and Google's existing attestation does not do holdbacks. Fundamentally, attestation is seen as anti-competitive by potentially blocking competition between browsers and operating systems on the web.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, if you're telling people to run their own email host, you're either trolling or a moron.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, because not only is it viable, they absolutely never get blocked! lol

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Every time I've ever looked into it or read anything on the topic it's been like "do not do this. I lost my father, my children, two wives, and all my Pokemon cards in this endeavour, but in case you don't want to listen, here's how I partially successfully hosted my own email server for three months..."

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

It's not that bad but definitely not a solution for everyone. And you probably still don't want to do it for your primary mail unless you're otherwise extremely well versed in doing so, up to and including running multiple servers for redundancy.

[–] optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of that is about Exchange. Because Microsoft software is always garbage.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not exactly. Having a running software is one thing, not having your emails be blocked by everyone because you're not a trusted host is another. That another is a deal breaker and a huge pain in the ass, even though it helps fighting spam

[–] optimal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These days you can spin up a docker container with all the email trust stuff preconfigured

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

And the emails from your custom server will be rejected and/or marked as spam by every major corporation, and you will spend countless days writing appeals and appeal rejects

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so fucking easy to do so. Even run it off a rented host.

[–] neardeaf@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

You do realize the vast majority of people would need you to explain what a “rented host” is, then they still wouldn’t comprehend it.