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Snyder v. US is the Republican justices’ latest decision weakening anti-corruption laws.

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[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 90 points 4 months ago (4 children)

How much general legitimacy does the regime have there? Do people not want to overthrow/replace it by this point?

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 58 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Man, you can't even get people to do anything about actual concentration camps. Like, some people tried to organize raids on the places where humans were being held because they dared to cross a border, in horrible conditions, including children. Nobody did a gods damned thing. A lot of fucking noise about how "somebody" should do something, but they couldn't.

Yet another black man was murdered by police a few years ago, and people did rise up a little, but didn't have the will or stamina to do the job all the way to the finish.

Truth? The people that think they're all progressive and good are fucking complacent. They really think that they can fix the system from the inside without any sacrifice.

Fuck, you can't even get far left radicals to actually do something concrete.

Meanwhile, the far right has ridden on the coat tails of racism and hate until they've been taken over completely by the racists and fascists, but they're united enough via identity politics that they'll never, ever let go of what they've gained without an actual, real fight.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not like the protests just went nowhere and petered out. That was the effect, but the state showed that it has a violent and psychotic response to any serious criticism, and was unashamed of it.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And people went the fuck home

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

Only the original 4 who murdered George Floyd were charged. None of the other police in Mpls who shot citizens, instigated riots, and actively harmed peaceful protesters haven't, and will never be charged.

After the protests, the MPLS police gave up. They will now only show up to a call if and I quote "There is a dead body"

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

The system is still broken

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yet another black man was murdered by police a few years ago, and people did rise up a little, but didn’t have the will or stamina to do the job all the way to the finish.

Just for clairity......what does finishing the job all the way entail? What would that process be? I assume you're talking about George Floyd? From what I saw there were national protests. A few cities, including his own, got violent at times. I even heard of certain Canadian cities protesting. Which in my mind made little sense, but I appriciate the gesture.

But what more, short of killing every cop, are you suggesting be done?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago

But what more, short of killing every cop, are you suggesting be done?

Seems you understand what needs to be done

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 10 points 4 months ago

The point is to keep escalating until the government cannot just keep throwing cops at the problem. This, however, requires some level of popular support, which does not seem possible given that about half the American electorate is fine with slavery in the first place.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

Pull down everyone in power and rebuild a nation. That's what revolution is

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 8 points 4 months ago

Things will have to get a lot worse before people rise up, but it'll happen eventually.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The Supreme Court even today has over twice the approval rating as Congress (that's not saying much). Overthrowing one branch of government seems like a novel idea. There is a process for removing justices but it's never been done before. Only one justice has been impeached, Samuel Chase, and he wasn't even removed from the bench.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I want to overthrow everything. Just.....just all of it. The corrupt leaders. The corrupt police. The capitolistic system which encourages exploitation. The conditions which lead to poverty. The systemic racism. Just.......just delete, start new file.

What should we call this new country? I'm thinking "Whoopsiedaisy" has a nice ring to it.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I honestly don't think the US would come out the other end of a civil war or rebellion as just one country

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Could be. Its next to impossible to accurately get the details right on hypotheticals. But what your saying isn't far fetched. I can see Texas being a country......and reintroducing slaves.

I mean....I'm joking, but I also wouldn't put it past them.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If everything was started from scratch tomorrow, the likelihood of present day California and Texas naturally ending up together in the same nation is pretty much zero, IMHO.

Those two are kept together by pretty much a country-sized version of a Sunken Cost Falacy.

One can't even count on language or culture as a unifying element, otherwise the whole of Latin America would be 2 countries, Brasil & Everybody Else.

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Is removing a justice more or less difficult than adding more justices?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If I had less to lose, dude. (I'm already on a list, I'm not worried)