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[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 122 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mastodon is a Software, the stuff is hosted by others. What a idiotic, click bait and wrong headline.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's software that also serves as a method to distribute and access it. But ultimately, it doesn't matter, the resulting pushback will be the same.

The conclusion of the study was basically that the biggest players should enter the fediverse in order to use their capabilities to scan and police it.

Wherever this shit exists, unwanted attention and scrutiny will follow, while the reputation of the platform will be harmed.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

That's like blaming vbulletin for Nazi forums or something.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This will literally do nothing, the people conducting the study obviously have absolutely no idea how federation and the fediverse in general work...

And the big Players will be thrown out by everyone else, we are here because we hate them.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the people conducting the study obviously have absolutely no idea how federation and the fediverse in general work...

How do you know that?

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Study:

Mastodon = Server hoster

Mastodon = Responsible for content

Mastodon = able to moderate

Reality:

Mastodon ≠ Server hoster

Mastodon ≠ Responsible for content

Mastodon ≠ able to moderate

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where does the study suggest the Mastodon software's ability to moderate, or that it's responsible for content?

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you read the headline? Or the article?

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did you read the actual study that this article refers to?

Going by your lack of further response, I'm going to assume you didn't, otherwise you'd have noticed that you're wrong. I recommend reading the sources of articles in the future before commenting on them.

The conclusion of the study was basically that the biggest players should enter the fediverse in order to use their capabilities to scan and police it.

Not sure if that would work as users are fleeing from those big players as they don't prioritize the safety and needs of their users.

The contradictory problem is that current major corporations prioritize money at all costs even at the expense of their users so their customer base flee to the next best service/product provider.

People are currently abandoning Reddit and Twitter because their moderation system either doesn't work or has underlying contradictions to what users are asking for.

Facebook launched Threads and people only joined initially due to FOMO. With how transparent they are in harvesting user data at the expense of people's privacy I think (and hope) that people are starting to realize that this is probably not in their best interests.

I think what we're seeing is evolutionary filtration of the web similar to natural ecosystems where the species with the highest ability to adapt that survives.

Based off of one metric it seems that companies structured around proprietary software (zero-sum systems) are unsustainable. This is my untested observation however so this could be true currently but systemically wrong once examined and tested.

So the idea that

biggest players should enter the fediverse in order to use their capabilities to scan and police it.

doesn't seem to make the most logical sense as the foundation for those companies is untrustworthy and unsustainable.

[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Yup. Might as well blame Nginx.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago