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[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

MLK's protests made the civil rights movement look bad. People fucking hated him at the time, despite how history has whitewashed him.

Every effective protest pisses reactionaries and "moderates" off. If it doesn't piss them off, it isn't effective.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Except this doesn't make me care about oil one damn bit. What I do care about it harsh penalties for the perpetrators(including community service and paying for the damage to be undone) and protecting heritage sites like this from other shitty humans. Its not activism, it's vandalism. It has nothing to do with oil. It would be the same as setting the Mona Lisa on fire and screaming about oil. It's just unhinged.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Except this doesn’t make me care about oil one damn bit.

So what? Nobody cares what you think, least of all the Just Stop Oil people. They don't have to win people to their cause; they just have to keep making themselves a nuisance until everybody's so pissed off that The Powers That Be are forced to capitulate just to make it stop.

Not to mention, it takes extremists like them to make the more moderate environmentalists look reasonable. It's the same way that the government was eventually forced to concede to the demands of people like MLK: because it became clear that the demands of people like Malcolm X, not the status quo, were the alternative.

[–] DistractedDev@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sure but you can hardly compare this to any of MLK's protests. As far as I'm aware, he never harmed pieces of ancient history. He got to the root of the problem and did things like sit-ins in white only restaurants. It's two different kinds of pissing people off.