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[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I use mine daily… primarily as a monitor for my laptop.

Now you might think that’s dumb, but I can go sit outside in the backyard, park, beach, coffee shop, wherever and work on a big, totally private, crisp and clear, glare-free anywhere monitor. I can bring it to the in-laws or on trips and even use it as a monitor for my Steam Deck. Or I can lay in bed or on the sofa or on a lawn chair and use the Steam Link app to play games from my PC.

Taken purely as a private, portable, omni-monitor, it’s absolutely worth the price for me.

As an AR/MR/XR device, it has some MAJOR software problems. Honestly, it makes sense they’d pause hardware development… it’ll be a couple years before there’s anything worth upgrading and they have a long way to go on UX, gestures, inputs, and even basic real-time object recognition and tracking. I bought mine knowing it was a Development Kit and planning to use it to get ahead on AR development experience, but I hit major roadblocks so frequently I’ve just about given up on every interesting use-case I went into this with.

VisionOS 2 is a baby step forward, but Apple has a long, long way to go before it makes sense for regular people. Heck, they aren’t even including all the cool new AI features in VisionOS 2, and it’s the one device that could benefit from that stuff the most.

So, yeah… it can still be worth it to certain people with specific use-cases, but I think it’ll be a solid 5 years before the software and hardware can reach a “normal consumer” level of quality and value.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you mind sharing if you feel fatigue if you use it as a monitor for long durations. I feel headphone fatigue with my ears getting too warm very quickly for example. Anything of that sort physically, and how about eye strain?

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Two part answer: yes and no.

Default Straps: Bad

The included straps leave all the weight at the front of your head, so you will feel neck strain as a result of the constant weight imbalance. This is a common problem with HMDs… it’s not the weight, but the fact that it’s not balanced, forcing your neck muscles to compensate. Additionally, the design relies on facial pressure to keep the HMD in place… and while the “light shield” is not uncomfortable, it’s still pressure.

Aftermarket Straps: Good

HOWEVER, we are starting to see some creative after-market solutions. I am currently using a BOBOVR M3 Mini with some 3D-printed AVP adapters. To fix the weight balance problem I put adhesive tire weights on the back as a counter-balance (same thing I did with PSVR2). With this solution, it’s infinitely more comfortable than either standard strap… no neck strain, dramatically reduced face pressure… I can go all day. You can get the 3d printed adapters on Etsy, if you’re curious.

As for the eye strain/vision: Ordinarily I need reading glasses for normal things, but on the AVP I don’t need anything. There is no eye strain and everything is crisp and sharp and clear… without any Rx inserts.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the reason I want one. I really want to take a long haul flight with one paired to my wireless keychron with Mx blue switches, and proceed to code for the entire flight.

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

... long haul flight... mx blue...

I'm not sure if you're joking but it's hilarious either way.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I can't hear you over the din of the kali box whites and the screaming child, what did you say?

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I had to suffer through enough ridiculousness before I got noise cancelling headphones. I absolutely am not joking, it would be glorious. The only reason I haven’t done it before is that how the fuck am I gonna type on a keyboard with a laptop on the tray table? I used to travel for work, 3-6 weeks at a time living out of hotels, so I’ve had my keyboard in my carryon duffel while flying, which seeded this dream.