Wait, so they put a boat on a strip of land and now claim it their territory, because the ship is not officially decommissioned, despite being a shipwreck (and thus useless as a boat)? Am I missing something here?

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They put a boat on a strip of their land in Philippine waters.

[+] filoria@lemmy.ml -6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's not how UNCLOS works.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And how exactly does China's claim work within unclos? The shoal is only 190nm away from the Philippines and should be part of the Philippines exclusive economic zone. If there is any questions of legitimate territorial claim it would be with Vietnam not China.

Also, stopping any navigation within your own exclusive economic zone goes against unclos, let alone stopping navigation of a country in their own exclusive economic zone.

[–] filoria@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's your point? The Philippines bases their entire claim on their interpretation of UNCLOS, but flouts it at every opportunity. International law for thee but not for me.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's your point?

You seemed to be suggesting that what the Philippines is doing is breaking the rules of unclos, but you haven't explained how.

but flouts it at every opportunity. International law for thee but not for me.

How? They are allowed to protect the resources in their exclusive economic zone. China on the other hand is still attempting to enforce a claim that was invalidated by international courts in 2016.

Seems like you might be projecting on the behalf of China.

[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're not allowed to set up a territorial military outpost in EEZ lol

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

In the exclusive economic zone, the coastal State shall have the exclusive right to construct and to authorize and regulate the construction, operation and use of:

(a) artificial islands;

(b) installations and structures for the purposes provided for in article 56 and other economic purposes;

There no language in the EEZ article that mentions "territorial military outpost".

[–] Poach@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can't beach a ship in your own territorial waters and then get upset when China comes to take your stuff and harass you? Do you understand what is even happening in the South China Sea?

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you think the territorial sea extends 200nm?

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think that's more plausible than China's claim that their exclusive economic zone stretches over a thousand miles off their coast, and supercedes both Vietnams and the Philippines exclusive economic zones.....

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Glad that we agree that the South China Sea is entirely vibes-driven and has no foundation in international law.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah, there's pretty clear rules. It's just that the main power in the region tends to ignore them when it suits them. Again, how is the Philippine government breaking international law?

[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

IIRC you're not allowed to set up territorial military outposts in EEZ, so OP is correct that the Philippines government is violating international law.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

According to who?

In the exclusive economic zone, the coastal State shall have the exclusive right to construct and to authorize and regulate the construction, operation and use of:

(a) artificial islands;

(b) installations and structures for the purposes provided for in article 56 and other economic purposes;

Can you link what article that falls under?